Rodney (Balls) Grinter

Still a very decient and tough player though

Some people on here have a pretty strange idea of what makes a 5 minute wounder. Guys like Sean Charles and Jeff Hilton played 47 and 43 games and kicked 60 and 23 goals between them across multiple seasons. They were seriously capable players across a good number of games, but were either not quite up to the standard / frindge type performance or had other injury issues that prevented them from being a long term career best 22 type player they otherwise had the potential to be on a more established basis than your typical 5 minute wounder. I'd put other recient players like Dean Kent and Arron vandenBerg and others in this sort of category. The other 5 minute wounders that do come to mind for me are James Magner (did end up playing a modest number of games, but none that really lived up to his first half dozen that I recall), Mitch Clisby, Alex Georgiou and Mitch White. Georgiou also really stands out amoung these as someone who's first few games had him looking like star potential. Mitch White being an interesting case of being a solid regular performer for Casey and it was great to see him have premership sucess at that level. But from the couple of games he played at AFL level, he looked very promising as a potential capable and reliable player, but I guess it's since played out that he was just that half a step off the pace, but still good enough to be a bloody good seconds player. At the end of the day, I guess I've still got enormous respect for the guys labeled in this thread as '5 minute wounders' as I'd have loved to have made it anywhere near AFL level in my own playing days and even that 5 minutes of running out onto the G in a MFC jumper would have been amazing.

Yeah, but I hate WC every bit as much (if not more) than those teams. Only consolation is that WC are rubbish at present, but even the thought of Hunt making them more competitive makes me sick. That's said, I'd happily see WC spend decades in mid tier ladder positions, never genuinely compeditive enough to play a meaningful role in finals, but not low enough to get good draft hands either. I actually wish this for around 3/4 of the comp, so it's not a totally logical theory I know, but perhaps if most opposition teams cycle pepetually between later positions 6 and 18 and make bad calls trading low picks for duds our missing their low picks, maybe that would work. Again, this is all pretty wishful thinking for WC as recient history suggests that they are well enough run that the don't stay down for long and asides from Hawthorn, I think they have consistently snagged more flags than any duration of their existence.

I'd be sad to loose Hunt. Rode out and survived some of the hard times at the club and sadly missed out on 2021 by getting injured just at the wrong time. Seems like a genuine and likable character around the club, totally without any obnoxious excess ego. I do rate his abilities as a footballer, but I feel that neither the MFC or Jayden have ever quite extracted his full capabilities on a consistent basis. Having said that, no team has 100% superstars 100% of the time, but I thought Jayden usually played with good effort, courage and toughness for a guy of his build. Had a bad start to 2022, but battled hard to win his way back into the team in the later part of the season. His last quarter against Carlton this year was an absolute ripper and showed what he can be at his best taking on the game with pace and dare. It would be somewhat odd for a guy that's battled his whole career at a struggling club on the rise that's now at the pointy end of the league to go backwards to a cellar dweller. I guess he must have his own reasons and motivations, which is fair enough. Would rather he stayed, but respect Jayden wherever this may land.

Fair call. I noticed the goals, but not so much the other stats. Didn't really jump out at me amoungst the overall routing which the Swans were given, probably because I lost interest and was only half watching the game.

100% agree and Tom Papley heads the list. So sick of the Sydney champions, always compeditive [censored]. Not so compeditive in GFs (though I'd also love to have won a second premership within my lifetime). I'm sure other teams supporters would probably say and think the same about the MFC, so I guess that's an opposition supporters right to have that kind of pejorative and perspective on the enemy.

Isac Smith should throw his into the river. Just about the most undeserving of a Norm Smith medal I can think of. Just because they share the same last name. Sheeesh.

Just about fell asleep watching the game this afternoon. Now to get my pulse going again watching the epic that was the 2021 GF / MFC premiership glory!

I'm both for and against playing Petty forward in 2023. Pros are that he a great grab, reader of the play, really attacks the ball, has presence and is a decent kick at goal. The big con for me is that I think he's our best imeediate and long term backup for Steven May. As much as our attack was defficient in the back half of 2022 in particular, defense is critical and the consistency and stability we achieved down there in 2021 was one of the keys to achieving premierhip success. Play around with Petty forward and we may upset our defense too much and become uncompetitive in that area of the ground. That said, part of me does wounder if we could have taken control of some the games we lost in the second half if either May or Petty were allowed to pinch hit forward for some time earlier in the game and get some more reward for our efforts. Would also like to see more Joel Smith forward in 2023 (assuming he can remain fit). I feel his football immaturity / somewhat lack of footy smarts may be too much of a liability down back, but his pace, marking abilities and reasonable goal kicking could make him a satisfactory second key forward.

Some nice symmetry about that list, with Yze taking out the honours in2001 & 2002 and then returning as a premiership assistant in 2021. Overall, I do like the contribution and support of some of our ex stars of that era of the club to the continued character of the team. Lyon, Stynes, Robertson, Grinter, Green, Hopgood, Viney, Davey, Swartz, Neitz, Stretch, Woewodin, Wheelan, White and others have also all stuck by the club and maintained some level of connection support.

Why didn't we just start tanking in Rd 15, so at least we could pickup some better draft picks? FFS We've worked our butts off all season, finished 2nd and earned the double chance. I'll admit we're not exactly cruising but no way am I throwing in the towel yet. Still pleanty of oppertunity to have another crack at a flag.

Great example before of the inferiority of Brisbane's game plan and the superiority of ours. Lions had the ball at half back and chipped 20m instead of driving 50m towards the wing/half forward. Very lucky to end up with q goal after they turned it over in their back half.

Media - watch out competition, here come the champions Richmond to win the flag again. Fox Footy at half time - Richmond have lost their best midfielder Dion Prestier for the game. I rated Dion back in the day, but when he's now your best midfielder, you team is rubbish. Come on Lyons, put them away. Edit - put them out of their misery!

I sold the house these were attached to, but the flags were definitely not a fixture. They look a bit faded now after 4 months of Qld UV, but really hoping I can drape them over the boundary fence at the MCG with absolute pride. Come-on Max, Jack and Co - bring it home at the MCG for the Demons faithful. 4 more weeks. GO THE MIGHTY DEMONS!!

Really glad for May to be finally getting the recognition. Could have been 3AAs for him as he was pretty bloody good in 2021 as well from memory.

It could be said that Gus has played multiple positions over the season and perhaps that could have cost him. ...not that it made any sort of difference to the Hawkins selection. Agree though. Gus is very stiff.

Or Lachie Neale?

And how does Andrew Brayshaw get the AFLPA MVP award and only a position on the bench of the AA team?

Watching a bit delayed here to many of you and literally Tom Hawkins quote when being interviewed since being awarded AA captain "I don't think I've ever been a captain before" (does he mean like not even for a single game at some point?) - wow. All the gushing of the Fox/360 commentary team over him being captain. I think I'm going to vomit. I don't have such a problem with the Tomohawk being picked as a forward - he's a beast and freak of nature to still be performing so well down there in that role at his age.

Watching Dangerfield and Jezza Cameron try to crack a joke between them earlier in the evening - totally cridgeworthy. Almost as crindgewothy as Hawkins would be for AA Captain.

Yeah, nah. Best club song going. No change reauire - full stop.

Further to my last statement, if the MFC makes thr grand final, MFC members should be given double the allocation of GF tickets normally provided after missing out last year. Would be a great gesture from the AFL - are they capable of such generosity I wounder?

Glad the AFL has upheld the suspension of Cameron Rayner (...so far, legal action still possible/pending). Not that I hold anything personal against Rayner, quite the contrary as I'd like to see him be a good player in a Brisbane side that finishes 2nd to the MFC every year, but I'd feel it would be a huge injustice to Kade Chandler who got rubbed out for the full 2 weeks for something quite similar in nature, if not less neglegent/more accidental earlier in the season. It's good to see something vaguely resembling consistency from the AFL match review/tribunal for a change.

Can we have the 2022 captains day photo too please?

I've certainly found this year and to an extent most of last year to be lower stress and more enjoyable than any other time of being a MFC supporter as well. The moments of sheer emotion and elation from Rd 23 onwards last year were something to behold. Getting to share that with everyone on this forum has been great. This season has been so different to any other I've experienced as a footy supporter. To be honest, I've almost found myself being a bit bored and apathetic towards footy at times, which is something quite new to me. Alot of the time I haven't felt a burning desire to read or contribute to D'land either. However the losses we had through the middle part of the season have reminded me that it's not all peaches and the wins somewhat against the grain against Carlton and Brisbane in recient weeks have got me excited for what we could produce again. Look forward to riding out the next month with my fellow posters / Demon faithful. Would love to be wearing a MFC jumper with 14 on the back that represents both a few of my favorite players and the number of flags we've won! (P.S. my son has a jumper with BBB's playing No. on the back!!). P.P.S. hope your health is on the up Litd.