titan_uranus

The topic is a valid one but the way @Mach5 is going about raising it is p**s poor IMO. If you are aware of specific failures within the club's management, explain what they are. To the rest of us mere members, all we see is increased membership, increased sponsorship, better FTA fixturing and more relevance in both the media and the general footy public. The only example I've seen you put up here is a criticism of sponsorship, which is a topic on which the publicly available evidence suggests we have improved as a result of the flag. Which, to me, makes you 0 from 1 so far. i'm happy to debate how we're going embedding ourselves into the Casey region as well as other areas of Melbourne that might be considered appropriate for us to target, but you've not raised any evidence to suggest we're failing to do that.

The midfield two-way running I saw last week vs North was miles ahead of last night. Intensity often drops in practice matches and it wouldn't surprise me if we planned to go all-in for one match and less so for the other. Assuming that's what happened though, I don't really know why we picked the North game to be the all-in one, but anyway. IMO many are undervaluing the importance of having all of our missing players from one part of the ground. Having one key defender out can be covered (e.g. Smith covering for Hibberd last year, or Tomlinson covering Petty vs North last week) because it's only one stop-gap with a majority of the usual faces around you. But last night we had Lever, who hasn't played competitive football since the GF, and a 9-game 19-year old in Bowey, as the only regulars down back having to help organise a back half that we didn't spend much/any of the pre-season planning to deploy. That is then compounded by the unfortunate reality that some of the second-stringers are too loose (Hunt and Smith), so it sort of spirals a bit. The weak back half meant they were scoring from just under 50% of their inside 50s in the first half (13 scores from 27 inside 50s). Part of that comes from a poor midfield display but I'd back our first choice backline to do better than conceding 50% of the time. I certainly would rather have dominated the game but the result doesn't mean too much to me. I am, though, disappointed that Baker didn't demonstrate much/any improvement and we saw too much bad Hunt and not enough of the 2021 improved version.

It’s a good rule change. It will be applied too strictly in Round 1, but the answer isn’t to whinge about it but to adapt to it. -62 disposals, - 3 CPs, -14 clearances, -8 tackles. Pre-season or not, we won’t be winning many games of football this year with those figures.

I reckon this game is teaching us all a few things. First, a reminder about the importance of a healthy list. At no stage last year did we go into a game with 5 first choice defenders missing. Having one or two second rung players filling in is fine (eg Smith in the late Rounds and early finals last year) but when you need them to all work together with only Lever there to marshall, it shouldn’t surprise that it isn’t going to work as well. Carlton scored from 48% of their inside 50s (we had more, surprise surprise). Secondly, goal kicking accuracy. 12.3 vs 5.6. We lost games last year because we didn’t convert. Third, we are nothing without workrate. Last week vs North I saw an entire side working like they did in the finals. If we’re not at that level tonight, that will explain why we’re behind. And fourth, tonight is a more real game than last week (too many read too much into a genuine scratch match) but it’s also not a real game. Remember, we got belted by the Dogs in this game last year.

I don't envisage us playing a single game this year with all of May, Lever, Petty and Tomlinson. IMO, it's one of Petty and Tomlinson for the third tall.

Based on the first 7 rounds last year one could argue that Tomlinson would be a premiership player if not for his ACL. I think Smith and Tomlinson are both in the category of key defenders. I suspect the FD will be looking to pick whoever is best overall. I wonder whether Smith's intercepting role yesterday was increased due to Lever's absence? Would he have the same licence if Lever was in the side?

This is so unimportant...but...I really don't like the lighter blue Zurich logo. Much preferred the previous version which blended into the blue on the body of the jumper.

On Brown, I saw a highlight video of Chandler's goal from the middle of the field. Was that Brown sprinting into the goalsquare chasing after it? If so...seems a far bit faster/more agile than last year?

I know it's only a practice match but belting North Melbourne is always a fun event. Hopefully Salem is OK? Otherwise sounds like we got everything we'd have wanted from this match.

I could not agree more (although I don't know if I knew that the word "risible" existed before this post. Thank you for introducing me to it). It may not be "hate", but you don't really get why people find this list of players a bit on the nose? Look at @Demonstone's post above for starters. Their system results in Jeremy Finlayson being ranked "elite" in the key forward group but Harry Mackay and Jeremy Cameron not. Finlayson couldn't hold his spot in the GWS best 22 last year and was dropped for the last month. "Elite"? Their system results in Dylan Moore and Sam Switowski being ranked "elite" in the general forward group but Charlie Cameron, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti and Michael Walters not. Jack Steele had an incredible 2021 but somehow went backwards in the rankings? The point is this: whatever Champion Data is measuring, they're way off the mark to the point that these rankings are pointless.

There might be a player who fits a need we have more, but I agree with those who said Liam Jurrah.

Nah Smith was on Cameron from the start and was responsible for a number of his goals.

I noticed that too, and my initial thought is I don't like it. However, unlike @DeeSpencer I love the gold AFL logo. A reminder throughout this season of our 2021 achievement.

This is a weirdly comforting reminder that, no matter that we're reigning premiers, this is still Demonland.

Bengals 28 v Chiefs 31 49ers 24 v Rams 21

Usually from November to February the only Demonland threads I visit are the NFL and cricket ones. This year's been a touch different...

One of the greatest games of all time to end what surely is the greatest weekend of NFL games, ever? There's no doubt the main reason the Bills lost is giving up a FG in 13 seconds. But... This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back in terms of the current OT rules. For Allen not to get to touch the ball after the game he had is just not how that game should have ended. Both defences were stuffed which meant too much rested on who won the coin toss. It shouldn't be that way.

I have no idea who will play in Round 1, which is far too far way to contemplate (injuries, form etc.). But I know what I want, which is for the premiership 23 to be the 23 we pick. Just to break that record. Edit: to be clear, what I actually want is for us to pick the best 23 when Round 1 comes, so if that's not the premiership 23 then such is life. But the romantic in me would love it.

Bengals 17 Titans 27 49ers 14 Packers 35 Rams 28 Buccaneers 30 Bills 28 Chiefs 24

The more I reflect on it as the months go by, the more I realise that your second sentence is completely justifiable. 17-1-4 record, percentage of 130.8%, worst of the four losses was by 20 points, on top of the ladder for 13 out of the 23 H&A weeks, at least one win over every single finalist, and then a finals series in which three of the next four best sides other than us couldn't really get close to us (playing none of the finals at our true home ground and giving up some degree of home ground advantage each time), all the while dealing with COVID disruptions, schedule changes and hubs. I guess, somehow, it still hasn't sunk in yet.

The Round 23 Geelong game was as outlandish a period of Geelong dominance as you'll ever see. What they did simply wasn't sustainable (that game, and the PF, proved it). Everything went their way, in a period of quite literal perfection. I put very, very little stock in that run. If sides want to try to repeat it, good luck to them. As to the Dogs, yes, they were on top for a fair part of the GF through the second and third quarters. The way they played that game, and Round 19 when they beat us, is far more indicative of how I expect opponents to approach us in 2022. But it has to be remembered that the Dogs are the only side to bat deeper than us in the middle. No other side is as stacked in that part of the ground as they are, not to mention with a top 5 player (Bontempelli) in there to boot.

I agree that we don't go overboard. Other clubs seem to do it a lot more than us. I'd like to think our defensive set up is better than most other clubs such that we're not heavily reliant on buying an extra few seconds here or there in delaying our opponent in moving the ball. Other clubs maybe less so, and indeed if that is right then we may find it easier to score against those clubs who need that additional time to get their back half sorted out.

The delaying play thing is important. Everyone does it, including us. I hope to see a number of free kicks/50m penalties doled out in Round 1, so that it sinks in. The holding the ball changes are in the right spirit but I imagine are going to just create more problems in their interpretation by umpires.

Turned the cricket off for half an hour and England lose 9 wickets! Any Australian cricket fan should be pretty happy with that series. We played four Tests from January 2020 to December 2021. England, in that period, played 21. We had our incumbent captain dismissed in the weeks prior to the series, then had one of our best bowlers injured in the first Test, then our current captain Covid-ed out of the second Test, then our series best batsman Covid-ed out of the fourth Test. Despite all that, somehow, we were clearly more prepared and more settled than they were. Cam Green seems something special, as does Scotty Boland, but our 2022 Test cricket schedule is mainly three tours of the sub-continent, so poor old Boland probably won't be getting much game time as you'd expect a second spinner to be in his spot. Hopefully he's in the touring squads and gets some game time if we're resting/rotating Starc and Hazlewood.

Raiders 14, Bengals 21 Patriots 21, Bills 24 Eagles 7, Buccaneers 28 49ers 17, Cowboys 21 Steelers 24, Chiefs 31 Cardinals 28, Rams 21