dee-luded

2 hours ago, nutbean said:

Petracca did his knee in an interclub match - NAB matches are practice matches.

So do we go into the season proper without players really getting the rust of their systems, testing new game plans or playing players in alternative positions.

Injuries happen - they happen at training, they happen at intra club games and they will happen at NAB cup games.

 

if we did,  there would be a big increase in injuries from the intensity onset .

4 hours ago, Chelly said:

T20 Mickey Mouse stuff.

lol..  yes,  but I at least can see the potential for Warner to bat @ 3 in the test side.  Boony style.

11 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The news all over the Twitterverse is that Jesse Hogan (not to be confused with our Jesse the key forward) has suffered a stroke. 

He is also an avid Demon fan and we wish him a speedy recovery.

geez,  good luck to the fella if true?

I hope it isn't.

1 hour ago, dieter said:

I can't get myself to read the Sun, mainly because Bolt is bad for my blood pressure. I can imagine what he's saying about his dear innocent friend Pell, but what's the substance?

I stopped reading anything by bolt some years back.

I am slowly weaning myself off from 'the sun' paper... in cafes,,, & now much prefer 'the age',  whether in cafes or on internet. 

......  so I do not know what bolt says ?

37 minutes ago, Dr John Dee said:

I don't suppose too many on Demonland will know it but Paddy was a bloody good footballer in his day.

I didn't know that.

I know one thing,  he's a great man representing our Indigenous nations..  Inspirational.  I hope he is really effective in Parliament if he wins a seat.

he should have his base right now,  so he'll have to do a lot of work to maintain it.  match fitness is another matter.  maybe starts from bench ?  Rnd 2 or 3?

6 hours ago, Deeoldfart said:

AFL site reporting that Trac joined in full training this morning.  From what I'v read about him he will be an outstanding addition forward set-up.  (Even more) exciting times just around the corner!

lol,  time to celebrate Dof,   him joining in again

maybe a suitable song?

http://www.musicpophits.com/Music/BlueEchoes/HokeyPokey.mp3

11 minutes ago, AdamFarr said:

I'd agree, but he was probably also drafted because Dawes will be 28 this year and Pedersen 29. They've each got one to three years max. That's the perfect apprenticeship (at least in terms of time) for The Weed. I'd usually pick Pedersen ahead of Dawes, but this is where Dawes' leadership qualities, hard work and professionalism will teach Weiderman what it takes.

I think the club knows they aren't good enough,  once we push up past say 9th or 10th ladder position.  We will need other young tall forwards to come on in the next 18 months to progress beyond 7th spot.

23 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

It sounds simple to do what he's done but it takes a lot of guts and character. Well done to him.

yes indeed,  it does.

Febes was always one of my favourites since U-19's.

1 minute ago, Tony Tea said:

Mexican food is one of the more over rated cuisines. "Taco" is Spanish for stale bread.

Stale bread,  you mean breadcrumbs,   before they're added into prepared foods? 

I'm really glad to hear your on the ticket Mr Dodson,  to further recent Australians understanding of your Indig nations,  & to further enhance your peoples well being.

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34 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

The fence is designed to separate us from the worst of the oafs, desperates, fools and loudmouths that characterise the fan base of almost all the other clubs. I don't go to the footy to listen to the dribble and nonsense that emanates from the mouths of Collingwood fans for instance. If we were to beat these teams occasionally, I think I could cope with it better. Fingers crossed we may be turning that corner.

 

ps   Dee luded,   Don't presume to judge MCC members. I don't think you have the first clue about what they're like.

I certainly do pd...  & I have had reserved seats on level 2 northern side,  & level 1 northern side for a number of years there.   And I definately know what the mcc members is like. 

And I knocked back a MCC membership in my teens.  when my name came up.  i like to go with mates & sit in the outer & breathe in the atmosphere.

I think those who are offended by a few choice jokes,  sayings,  banter,  or some mild profanity,  are far too serious in themselves.  the word precious come to mind.

and coincidentally our team has been just that,  'precious'  over the last 12 years,  probably 20 years or so.  =  fragile,  crumbles under heat.

Yes i know what its like,  but my aim is the inferior attitudes to running an AFL footy club,  which eeks from over there.    nothing personal against any north members, but our club is weak because of this deevide.

50 years is far too long to ignore this.

well done sFebes..  guts mate.

proud of ya.

1 minute ago, Scythe said:

Richmond.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...kidding.

Richmond,,,   or the Tiger Army,  when they hit FULL voice ?

3 hours ago, Go the Biff said:

There's no such thing as Pivot. Nor Centre. Nor ruck rover. Not any more. The game has moved on from the old team sheets you used to check in the milk bar window to see where you were picked

 

On the Frost forward or back thing....... Frosty gets a lot of love on here for a bloke who's effectively done nothing. All we've really seen him do is run fast. Briefly.

On Garland I noted he was one of few to give run out of the backline on the weekend. He offers a fair bit more than 3rd man up. On the other HBF I'm hoping White develops over the course of the year. I realise Salem is earmarked for that spot but eventually I'd like to see him further up the ground as I believe he can be very damaging forward of centre.

As to the question of how far ahead Jones & Grimes are of Billy Stretch, I'd say about a year. In Jones case he gives us run which we lack. Our spread has been dismal. Good signs on the weekend but we still need runners. Matty Jones is no Peter Matera on the wing and will continue to make skill errors & the occasional blundered decision but if he can fix his appalling tackling technique & stop giving away cheap frees, he brings value. Billy should staple himself to Jones at training until he can match him in tank, repeat running, speed, defensive running etc. Because in skills Stretch already has Matt well covered

Grimes on a wing is a wait and watch for mine. I also suspect wings will be rotated more on field this season with the interchange restrictions. Guys like Kent, Garlett & Kennedy will move up for short spells, rotating back through the forward line

I agree with all you said GtB.  #edit: ( I realise the pivot argument, but i still like to think this way so we can paint in a class centreline, although its more like the centreline plus 2 HBFlankers these days)

To me body size is given more weight,  under this current footy dept' . 

And I think its important,  so we well & truly lose the pushover tag we so well deserved in our past.  First thing is the ability to stand up to intimidation across the 18 onfield,  & then to stand up in tackles,  keep your feet,  & keep your composure.   The beginnings of leaving that little boy next door thing go by.  the beginnings of becoming AFL men,  instead of a boy band of 18.

.... we ought to aspire to be like the old bomber sides, the old hawk sides with the modern interpretations.  they always presented as Men, not boys.  We have always as a team, since the mid 90's,  appeared to my eyes as boys in demon jumpers.

.... and we've also played that way as well.

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3 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Aww ya poor thing.
Tell that to the Dawks.
I want us to play like that.
Hartlett and Brayshaw were in a pointless bump-a-thon before the bounce.
Though I'm not convinced it was deliberate Hartlett saw an opportunity to inflict abit of pain and took it.
I'd expect our players to do the same.
I know Viney does.

 

yep, exactly.

1 hour ago, Tony Tea said:

The MCC fence protects me from people doing the Mexican wave. 

Hi tony,  that's a tiny part of it.  the fenced off mcc gated community.

It means those are somehow immune from the norm.  Tony, I think many are secretly chuffed by it,  being segregated from our supporters in the outer,  in some smug way.  Feeling special for being inside the fence-line?

This demarcation line separates our own support base,  & the outer supporters are falling away.

Buy the way,  I love Tacos & Enchiladas.  The wave is fun,  being engaged in simple fun with the masses,  is also lot of fun.

3 hours ago, Members' Wing said:

You really are sick DL

The whole idea of the fenced in members mcc,  is to keep those 'fearful' sheltered & controlled,  away from the mainstream.

The concept is built on fear,  fear of being ordinary (normal), & upon a sort of snobbery.  a false status.

this is where our past board members congregate,  & no coincidence,  its where those who sacked Smithy were from,  & its no coincidence that since Smithy was finished up,  we have failed time and again,  with our boards derived from that area.  That fenced in mcc area.  This is where our failing boards have come from over  50 years,  & so its where our failing attitudes come from.

47 minutes ago, Members' Wing said:

You really are sick DL

                        V V V V

42 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EuAZsz_z_U

6 minutes ago, Members' Wing said:

Good grief

 

I'd say thats a common complaint from the conservatives on your side MW,,,  those who keep the 'status quo',  even if it hurts you,  keep controlling,  but you will never control someone like me.

yours is the same conservative attitude that keeps the churches troubling its kids.  just keep on doin the same old,  no matter what.  don't rock the boat will you now.

1 hour ago, Akum said:

Pretty sure it was Hartlett later in the game who dragged Tyson backwards while he was on his knees, causing him to grab his knee & have to go off for a while. Again, a deliberate & unnecessary movement that could have caused a serious injury (or aggravated an existing one, given Tyson's history of knee injuries) by hyperflexing the knee. Have to keep a closer eye on Hartlett. As Nutbeam pointed out originally, this sort of thing doesn't get the attention that sling tackles do, but could involve just as much risk of serious injury.

you know If I remember correctly,  & I do,  that 'cleaning up' a player,  was retaliation to teach them consequences of their dirty actions.

a sort of kama.

Hartless will cop his own remedy,  I'm sure.

59 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

4 weeks.......could have been 6  

could have been either, 4 t 6 blzb

29 minutes ago, Pates said:

So I don't know whether "fear" is exactly the right word, but given where we've been for so long I became accustomed to looking at the fixture and dreading certain teams. I feel that amount of teams has diminished a lot for me over the last 12 months.

Hawthorn is still the team I look at on our fixture and think, how can we beat such an amazingly powerful team? More than that I probably still think how will we stop it from becoming a rout?

Fremantle and West Coast in Perth are always a power, even when they aren't playing the best football the trip over there, hostile territory, and they are both up there currently as teams to beat. Fortunately we only play West Coast in Perth.

Adelaide and Port USED to be teams I concerned myself when playing in Adelaide with but us beating the Crows there is 2014 and almost beating Port there in the same year, I don't have that same fear anymore.

I feel this year could be a big turning point for our club and the team in this respect where we no longer look ahead on the fixture and think "oh crap".

I fear this is the damage done from following a club like Melbourne Fuscia's has had on most, (including me once)  since Smithy was finished up.

imo i think the idea is to let go of 'fear', (the right description),  & then to see things as challenges,  to take on those challenges,  & to take a no prisoners attitude on field.

Ruthless comes from this attitude.

I'd like to see our supporter base start to display this attitude to our footy onfield opponents.

thats a start,  & our players can then feed off our new positive aggressive energy,  instead of feeling our apprehension.  They CAN feel the vibe onfield,  & the vibe certainly does effect them.   The negative,,,  or the positive.  

This is the meaning of quieting the opposition crowds.  it does Effect.

2 hours ago, Webber said:

Both easy to clinically diagnose so it ain't either, although the drive of the knee into the ground is classic PCL injury mechanism. All impatient armchair speculation really, I'm sure he'll be fine with a scope and a couple of weeks on the bike ?

thanks Webber,  thats why I mentioned it,  & to pass it by pickets nose,,,  but I don't understand the techniques of diagnosis for it,  or difficulty.

i c that Warner may drop down the order,  to bat at 3 ?    Imagine that,  eh Wat ?

& my dear Watson,  as an opener ?  

On 28/2/2016 at 5:30 PM, Lord Travis said:

FB: Garland  Dunn Jetta

HB: Salem  McDonald   ?????

C: Tyson  Viney  Brayshaw

HF: Vanders  Pedo  Watts

FF: Garlett  Hogan  Kent

Foll:  Gawn  Vince  Jones

Int: Kennedy Bugg ???  ???

Harmes, Oliver, Stretch, Grimes and a few others fighting for the other spots. Was hoping to see someone else own a HBF but it didn't happen unfortunately. Hunts defensive work was poor and we barely saw any speed or rebound from him. Wagner got better as the game went on but was still nothing to write home about. Would be great to have Melksham or Lumumba available to take that other HBF.

If Brayshaw is fit he plays. Don't risk him if he's not 100% though obviously. Hoping both Oliver and Petracca can debut not far into the season also to add midfield and forward depth.

I've got Pedo at CHF. He's not great, but at least he clunks a mark and kicks a goal every now and then. He can give Gawn a rest from rucking also. Frost is woeful as a forward and should only ever play in the red and blue as a defender.

Hi LT..

I don't understand why supporters keep on putting Viney in the Pivot?  to me, at least in the old ways, the more skilled inside type player like a Tyson or Brayshaw, would ususually get the pivot role?

& someone like Viney,  who flourishes in the crushes,  would be R/R or in todays roles,  as the Rover, changing via rotations.   I agree Viney should be in-under, but in the Ruck division?

so I guess i would choose,  as a base model for 2016 teams,  something like >

FB: Garland/Frost,  Dunn,  Jetta

HB: Salem,  TMcDonald/Frost,  Vince/Brayshaw/Lamumba

C: Tyson/Hunt,  Tyson/Brayshaw,  Grimes/Kent

HF: Vanders/Kent/Grimes,  TMcDonald/Pedo,  Watts/Viney

FF: Garlett,  Hogan,  Watts/Pedo/Frost

Foll:  Gawn  Jones/Brayshaw/Vince,  Jones/Viney

Int from: Pedo, Vince, Grimes, Lamumba, Kennedy, Bugg, MJones, Hunt,