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Also natural air conditioning. But did he have clothes? Does explain the comforts of The Gat some years down the track. Must have seemed like a palace with some well fed rats.

I suppose you can at least say that Hogan was not lying.

A big one for Mum and Dad and little ones for the kids? You were ahead of your time. Small houses are de rigueur these days. Cardboard boxes are the next step and have many advantages. They are portable, fold up and you have no clutter and can accommodate the kittens. For many people of the sub-continent this is luxury living. On the streets of nasty, capitalistic, Melbourne, home of the real estate agent, land developer and marketing executive, they are becoming aspirational for many left out in the cold. Oh yeah, marvellous Melbourne, the most liveable city in the world. Lets hope our footy team keeps its soul.

Thanks Biff. Just concerned about Red's delusional state. Most on this thread suffer the same malady without the public confession made by Red. As for romanticism, it has been beaten out of me by publishers, ex-lovers, enemies disguised as friends, and my own crumbling state of mind . Alcohol, medication and psychosis has not helped.

Lets hope he can also become a better kick on goal.

No judgment required La Dee. Just two blokes having some fun.

A case of irrigation red clean skins suit your tastes Uncle ? I have an old Italian friend who makes it. Very good paint stripper but also suitable for those with unrefined palates or just an insatiable thirst. Would go down well with your bogan friends in the Manor Estate.

CPs upper body looks trim. No handlebars and as someone mentioned, not burdened by body builder type muscle ""assisted"" development. What is striking is how huge his upper legs or thighs are in contrast to his torso. That's just the way he has been made, with his genetics.

Hmm well that''s something, but not really given your privileged background and occupation. All you see Red is your own idea of your self image and how you think others see you. However, your own self image is entirely delusional. This suggests that as you see two reflective Reds, you are hiding a very low self esteem. Others see you as you actually are. That is, one very flawed Red. It may also suggest early signs of schizophrenia. Perhaps a visit to your analyst is in order. If you don't have one, i can refer you to my regular list, although I'm sure you know a few, even within "the family"". Don't feel too bad as most posters on this site have their preferred trick cyclists..

It may be that Petracca can lose a few kilos but I suspect that it would only be 2 kilos based on his body type. My worry with Trac has always been his knees rather than his aerobic fitness. His bulk/weight suggests that there is a lot of force going through his knees. It seems that his legs and hips are too big for his knees. He does seem a bit stiff in his lower back making him more susceptible to hamstring injury. However, this may also mean that his quads and his hamstrings are very strong which provides some protection from knee injury. Its why footballers do a lot of weight and strength training on quads and hammys. At the same time, one would hope that as well as strength conditioning, Trac works daily on his flexibility. The reason why all professional sportspeople incorporate yoga, pilates and just plain stretching into their programs. Its all a question of balance that no doubt club medicos and fitness staff are all over.

It is obvious that footballers need to train hard, gaining and maintaining supreme fitness. However, there are always going to be differences between players aerobic fitness based on age, height, weight and running economy. In distance running, the better performing athletes run more than 100k per week. Training over longer distances for events such as the 5000m, 10000m or marathon require superior aerobic capacity. You cannot build strength and aerobic fitness unless you run the kilometres. Rob DeCastella was successful because he ran 100-150k per week continuously uninterrupted from injury over 10-15 years. He ran every day and had a physiology and sensible training regime that prevented him from incurring injuries that plagued most of his peers. For shorter distances such as 800 or 1500m, you need a combination of aerobic and anaerobic fitness. The latter is true of footballers. Given that a team of footballers are all different in age, height, weight, and, importantly, running economy, means that some will be better runners than others. Not all footballers can have the same level of aerobic fitness and never should. Trac is never going to have the same aerobic capacity as ANB. Players like Viney and Jones may have heavier body builds and have superior aerobic fitness but I would argue that they have better running economy. At the same time, Viney and Jones are probably susceptible to injury given the amount of running they do.

Lots of stuff on the net also, including the Mayo Clinic that summarizes the thing pretty well. 9 months seems to be agreed recovery time although the Mayo Clinic doco states that it may up to 12 months before the athlete can return to his/her chosen sport. The issue for Lever will not be his recovery and return to the game but how to avoid it happening again, given match conditions and his own game style. His intercept game, flying from one side, changing direction, taking off and landing on one leg etc may make him more susceptible than others. Does he return and play as if nothing has happened or does he try and change the way he plays? Hard to see the latter happening although Schwartz dramatically changed the way he played but he was a forward and he relied on his bulk to make position. Also the game was much slower

I will enjoy watching the Hawks struggle with or without Mitchell. Like inherited wealth they have had a born to rule attitude for such a long time. Albeit from premierships and continued success over 50 years. The continued success that we seek at Melbourne. And if that comes, the MFC will become a hated club like the Hawks. However, our demolition of them in the finals was something to rejoice and went a long way to expunging the dark memories of the past. It is always wonderful to see Jeff Kennett's face after a loss, like that of Eddies. Gracious in victory but not defeat. Not a way to measure the mark of a man.

Obviously was too heavy a load.

Seems like an innocuous training drill. To pull or strain a muscle, even injure your knee can always happen, but breaking a leg is strange. Usually caused by a collision or forceful impact. Breaking a bone is not easy to do. Seems surprising given the circumstances.

Hope this is not true but a reminder that you never know whats around the corner. All the best laid plans of mice and men can come undone very quickly with injury and bad luck. Even with strong depth you can never replace the genuine star, particularly a dynamo like Mitchell. Take care you Demons, may the football gods smile sweetly at you in 2019.

Indeed, sounds like a quality person. You can’t underestimate the impact on a footy club with the likes of this type of person coming on board. Another leader on and off the field. Exciting stuff.

looks like a beautiful ball drop.

OD you have obviously not drunk any metho.

Nothing has changed. I suspect that “values” are not part of their mission statement.

So true, its very special to see a champion run or compete in any sport. You realize there are the good, the very good, and the outright champions who are a different species altogether. I raced at a level where I came up against guys that you knew were just that much better and no amount of training was going to make up the gap.

Your comments about the 400 are basically correct without going to the physiology details. And as you know, the whole race is flat chat so somewhere between 200 and 400 the bear will get you. By the time you have 50 to run its well and truly on your back. Now riding back in the big V. Certainly miss the courtesy of SA drivers and the fact that the roads are so quiet. Here its getting increasingly stressful so I ride defensively all the time as I do when I drive. Fav rides include Beach Rd, Albert Park and Burnley and Kew Boulevard. Beach Road is becoming very stressful for cars and other riders Also enjoy country rides.

All I know Gough, which is not much, is that my best races and training sessions ended with a spew. Carefully avoiding coach, other athletes and officials. My favourite race was 800 but once I joined senior ranks and did not have the kick graduated to 1500-5k. I remember being well beaten to the line in a club race by a 400m runner, an Olympian of the day, who cruised past me effortlessly with 250 to go. He was running an 800 for training and I realized that this was the future of 800m running at the national and international level. So I stopped taking the 800 seriously that day. Once of my criticisms of Aus distance running over the years is that Aussies train and race for state and national success not international success. There are exceptions but this has been the normal practice. This means that most male and female athletes race at a shorter distance than they should. The great Cuban Alberto Juantorena was an example of someone who got it. He raced in Mexico over 400 and 800 and on that day middle distance racing was changed forever at a world level. Cathy Freeman was an Olympic and World Champion 400m but gee she would have been unstoppable over 800m. I guess in her case, she didn't need to and only ever wanted to run 400m. She can't be criticized, but there are many other Aussies who would have performed better by racing at a longer distance than running their favourite distance. Like you, I now ride a bike.

There were so many, particularly in our two winning finals. As a spectator at the ground, the most spine tingling and exhilarating play (when I caught a glimpse of footy heaven), was the Hannan run from the wing to goal. And re-watching it with BT's commentary wasn't bad either.

Yes Gough. Middle distance 800/1500/5000.