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What do you think a 30 year old who doesn't want to play for you , runs away from high balls, and avoids body contact is worth ? I'm really looking forward to your answer.

Why would you say this when plenty think 7 & 8 is fair and have expressed that opinion on here ?

He played as a 20 year old in the toughest position on the ground. He's a far better kick than Petracca and a far better mark. His upside is enormous.

I can see why you'd think that. You don't even know how to spell his name.

It's hard when you don't know all of the facts, but I hope Melbourne call their bluff.

Words or Actions: It can be communicated through a clear statement or inferred from conduct that shows an inability or unwillingness to perform. It can be inferred by conduct. It doesn't have to be what you've stated.

Surely, it's occurred to you that for Melbourne to be taking the actions they are that there are compelling reasons that you're not privy to ? Or do you think you're armed with all of the necessary information ?

Lamb ?

@Demon Forever How's that BBQ going ? Did old mate turn up ?

I don't agree. He had no clue about the meeting around the tan, or the meeting today. I've been on here for over 20 years and I know a credible source when I see one and Demon Forever is credible. I suspect all Morris has been told is that talks are ongoing and that GC are amenable to offering picks 7 and 8. And in his mind, that's a likely trade. For me, he's getting his info from the Suns, not the MFC.

Pickett, you're the greatest contrarian indicator I've ever seen on a web forum. Thanks.

Me too. I'd rather them make Petracca walk back in with his tail between his legs. Because, rightly or wrongly, I reckon the Suns will cave at the last moment. Getting Petracca in is too big for them to overlook. Especially for a player who will leave in the next year, or two, anyway. Do Melbourne have the balls ? Unfortunately, I'm guessing they don't. I hope I'm wrong.

Do you think you speak for everyone not keen on 7 & 8 ?

I'd do that too, but I'm not sure how that changes the merits of my post.

Some posters aren't keen on picks 7 and 8 in a shallow draft. They'll be the same posters having a fit if 23 goes back the other way.

I'd prefer Humphrey over picks 7 and 8, but how anyone could think that 7 and 8 is not a good deal for a 30 year old who avoids body contact is beyond me.

I have to say that I don't think Demon Forever's posts will in any way damage negotiations.

I'm not missing any point. In fact, the point is a club can only offer the picks they have. Their best pick is 6. If they had pick one or two then potentially it might be in play. But they don't. Stating there are 5 academy and F/S that push that pick out further is stating the bleeding obvious. You can't access what you can't access.

But you never had access to them anyway. Crying over something out of your control is usually a waste of time. But, by all means.

There's no comparison between Humphrey and Petracca. Gold Coast's position is that they won't trade Humphrey and clearly Melbourne's position is that it will trade Petracca, even if they're reluctant. Nothing Cameron has said is at odds with that situation. The only question is will they blink on Humphrey. We'll see.

Who doesn't know this ?

It's certainly Oliver's fault. His behaviour was tolerated when he was in the top 5 players in the game. Now, not so much. But how can anyone come to the conclusion that the club isn't pushing him out ? It's patently obvious that that's exactly what is happening.

Out of interest, why does it matter if 6 drops to 11 when it stays the 6th ''live'' pick ? Any F/S or Academy player won't be available to clubs anyway.

People say silly things when they're hurt.

Every year you can establish IQ levels by reading the draft and trade board.