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It's his business is to know the draft pool. That's how he earns a living. You're welcome to put your faith in his actual footy acumen. Over the last decade, his Phantom Form Guides shift all over the place between July and November, as his intel tells him closer to the draft who's going where. Please yourself if you think he's a draft guru.

I think it's too early to put a ceiling on a 19 year old.

It's not as simple as that. Many clubs may have had him as a top 10 pick, but either didn't have a top 10 pick OR had a early top 10 pick and preferred someone else OR rated him top 10 but only had one pick in the top 10. Throughout the year he was often picked in the late part of the top 10. Why do you think Twomey had him there ? He also injured his ankle in the Coates League GF. And in that game he was caught and looked a bit slow, which I don't think helped him. But all Twomey did and does is read the tea leaves from the intel he gets.

Reid was always considered a top 10 pick. He drifted late in preceedings. You don't follow drafts, do you ?

Twomey doesn't have a strong eye for junior talent. He has a strong ear for intel regarding junior talent. He also doesn't have a strong eye for a decent haircut.

Don't say that. You'll offend people.

Just not well.

Emma Quayle. She started working for an AFL club. I don't get concerned about ''paying overs'', but I'm aware they get picks wrong.

Chicken or the egg. The ball drop is an issue.

We have different eye sight.

So you missed where I said: ''There's definitely a bit to like. He is a nice mark, has courage in the air (you either do or don't), and seems smart around the contest.'' I also look for ''traits and attributes''. But I look for the good ones and the not so good ones. Spot the difference between you and me ?

His first kick at goal at 20 seconds. His kick at 1 min 21. Just 2 quick examples. What do you watch when you look at a player video ?

You need to watch more.

There's definitely a bit to like. He is a nice mark, has courage in the air (you either do or don't), and seems smart around the contest. His kicking looks bog ordinary to me with a high ball drop and a propensity to get too close to the man on the mark. But, the usual caveat, I haven't seen enough.

And his early selections are based on heavy intel, so not really even a ''phantom''.

We must have watched a different player. Old one arm in the air Wattsy was very concerned about his onfield well being.

Why on earth would you include Clint Bartram, who got the utmost out of his limited talent ? He was also pick 60. There are signs in juniors that could have precluded the Toumpas selection, i.e. his contested football percentage per possession. Perhaps Morton was the same in juniors, but I'm not sure. Then there's the drive and mental makeup, which may preclude some players having successful careers. It's hard to know unless you're in the club. Then there's simply dud recruiter selections. Naturally, development programs at clubs are crucial and I suspect ours was sub par. And if I was a failed early selection who played at the MFC during this era I'd probably hang my hat on poor development.

True, but does Judd strike you as the overly emotional type ? Apparently, he only met with Melbourne due to Connors respect for CAC.

Of course, he'll have knocks on him. All of the mooted top 10 picks do too. So did Simon Black (pick 31), Dan Hannebery (30) and Rory Sloane (44), as well as countless others. Unlike (some) others, I'd take the best player for our third pick and not decide to go for ''local''.

Admittedly, I've only seen one video of him, but if we kept this pick I liked the look of midfielder Fred Rodriguez. I wonder what @Pennant St Dee thinks of him.

Davo-27 on BF, a supposed draft expert, rates him top 5 in his top 50 list. But yes, I've edited and changed it to top 10. EDIT: Apologies to PM Bangers, not that they'll ever read this. It was Davo-27.

I thought I better watch Schubert again after these positive prognostications. So, I checked out his really good 4 goal 14 mark game. I also watched the SA VM highlights of him. My goodness, the amount of non completed marks in contested situations was over double figures. The awkward kicking and regular fumbling a highlight too. If this bloke is top 10 worthy it must be one of the worst drafts in history.

I don't agree with you, but why would an opinion offend anyone ?

Ah yes. But normally rhetorical questions make a point.

Pick 26, which was after Port Adelaide bid pick 7 on him, as he was highly rated by many clubs in that draft. This information is pretty freely available, but I hope that helps.