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There's no comparison between Humphrey and Petracca. Gold Coast's position is that they won't trade Humphrey and clearly Melbourne's position is that it will trade Petracca, even if they're reluctant. Nothing Cameron has said is at odds with that situation. The only question is will they blink on Humphrey. We'll see.

Who doesn't know this ?

It's certainly Oliver's fault. His behaviour was tolerated when he was in the top 5 players in the game. Now, not so much. But how can anyone come to the conclusion that the club isn't pushing him out ? It's patently obvious that that's exactly what is happening.

Out of interest, why does it matter if 6 drops to 11 when it stays the 6th ''live'' pick ? Any F/S or Academy player won't be available to clubs anyway.

People say silly things when they're hurt.

Every year you can establish IQ levels by reading the draft and trade board.

If anyone thinks a 30 year old Petracca, who runs away from high balls and now rushes his kicks because he's concerned by body contact, is worth more in a trade than a 21 year old Humphrey, they are genuinely clueless. Most years Petracca's kicking was pretty consistent. His percentage efficiency typically averaged in the mid 50s. It never dropped below 50, until this year (48). There's a reason. After a year back I do expect his confidence to improve, but trading a player with potentially 2-3 very good years left for one with a decade is a no brainer. If it can be done.

I understand your view, but if Humphrey officially declares he wants to come back to Victoria then he's a chance to be involved. It really depends on how willing he is to declare his homeward intentions. If he's wishy washy then I agree it won't happen.

Lamb has been useless irrespective of the outcomes of this trade period. Landing Flanders, Humphrey, Mihocek and whomever won't change that.

He did, but he was also equivocal. He acknowledged that Melbourne could still get Flanders.

I've been sad for 2 years.

You'd think a journalist would know that we use the term pleaded in Australia, not pled.

More likely, the manager.

I knew I had to marry my first wife in order to get rid of her. Sometimes, there are just processes that you need to follow. It feels like we're gently pushing Petracca to a new home, because we know the fresh air will make things better in the long run. Unless, you're in the club 24/7 it's hard to know.

Why do supporters worry about what incoming players are paid ? I couldn't care less. We either get better or we don't. Get better.

It's not a great example, because Geelong traded what they could. It doesn't make it a cast iron fact that that was all he was worth. It's all they had.

Zero interest. I loved it when I followed the VFL, but it's completely anachronistic in today's national competition.

I'm going to rattle off some stats that I'm not mad on, but I'm not sure how to better differentiate Neale-Bullen's 2025 to previous years. His kicking efficiency percentage is at about career average, his disposal efficiency is within a point or so of his career average and was better last year, his clanger rate is the same. I accept you've noticed a few more dynamic plays, but, in reality, he's the same footballer he's always been.

Statistically, Neale-Bullen's best year was 2018, where he averaged more disposals and kicked more goals. He's had a good year, but nothing to carry on about.

Surely, you realise where he was picked in the draft is now utterly irrlevant ?

Does your Son rate Jefferson ?

I agree with George's list. I can't agree with Bob that Tholstrup has clean hands. At AFL level all I see is a fumbler. I don't agree with Dazzle and others re Laurie. He's not up to it. A classic list clogger. I also think Jefferson is one of the biggest duds I've ever laid eyes on. But I accept that's not a popular assessment around here.

Of course he's not a good kick. An [censored] knows that. But he's not a poor kick for a ruckman. I said there needed to be context. This site is getting harder and harder to read. It's beyond pointless.

OK. I didn't know that you're disengenuous. Noted. When you said, ''Added to that Gawn is a poor kick and Langdon below average'', am I meant to take it that you're also referring to Langdon's goal-kicking ? Or more likely, his general kicking. You were clearing talking about Gawn's general kicking, and I responded accordingly. Now you're bringing goal-kicking into it. Everyone knows he's not a good set shot, although 2025 was far worse than most other years. You were clearly referencing Gawn's general kicking, which is not ''poor'' for a ruckman as you incorrectly assert.

It's relative for ruckmen. Gawn is not a poor kick. In fact, he's one of the more reliable. His retention rate for kicks is equal second, along with Rowan Marshall, for all main rucks. As an example, it's better than Tim English. While his kicking efficiency percentage is only behind English. Granted, it's not a stat I'm mad on, but for rucks it's as reliable as you're likely to get.