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I don't think Hardie will be with us next year and the 23rd man has to be under 21. The Casey players I'd have in the team are Bonner and Yze. We will have pick 37 as well doubt Smith would get a game if we were fully fit.

I'd trade pick 7 and 8 for Richmond pick 3 if Richmond are willing to trade it. It means Woey can stay on the list.

Trade week is done and dusted still not overly happy with Lamb I think he's too soft. 3 average picks for a star doesn't seem right. If we got Humphrey I would have been happy. Oliver is damaged goods, he was a champion but he's tarnished his rep the last 2 years. I think we should delist McAdam then put him on the rookie list. No room for Woewodin with May staying. Mihocek is a star but is he too old? He'll at the very least teach the young kids to play the right way. Heath is an unknown only played 4 games. Jiath could be a good pick up but he sounds like a bit too much like Hunt and we got rid of him for a reason. Steele could also be a good recruit but like Clarry his last 2 years have been ordinary, but before that he was a star easily St.Kilda's best player back then, he adds leadership something Clarry never had. B: Jiath, Petty, Salem HB: Lindsay, Turner, Bowey C: Culley (a), Steele, Langford HF: Chandler, van Rooyen, Tholstrup F: Fritsch, Mihocek, Melksham FOLL: Gawn, Rivers, Pickett IC: Windsor, Langdon, Viney, Pick 7, Pick 8 EMERG: Sparrow, Howes, Laurie Casey B: Lever, May, Adams HB: Howes, McDonald, Moniz-Wakefield (a) C: Sinnema (a), Laurie, Sharp HF: Henderson (a), Johnson, Mentha (b) F: McAdam (a), Kentfield (a), Jefferson FOLL: Campbell, Sparrow, Pick 37 IC: Heath, White, Berry (b)

B: Jiath, Petty, Salem HB: Lindsay, Turner, Bowey C: Culley, Langford, Windsor HF: Chandler, van Rooyen, Tholstrup F: Fritsch, Mihocek, Melksham FOLL: Gawn, Rivers, Pickett IC: Langdon, Viney, Sparrow, Pick 7, Pick 8 EMERG: Adams, Howes, Laurie Casey B: Lever, Adams, Berry HB: Howes, McDonald, Moniz-Wakefield C: Sinnema, Laurie, Sharp HF: Henderson, Johnson, Mentha F: McAdam, Kentfield, Jefferson FOLL: Campbell, Woewodin, Draft Pick IC: Heath, White, Draft Pick

I don't like it but it looks like we will get 7 and 8 pick for Petracca. Delist then rookie Woewodin. The rebuild is here. B: Lever, May, Bowey HB: Salem, Turner, Lindsay C: Culley (a), Langford, Windsor HF: Chandler, Petty, Fritsch F: Melksham, Mihocek, van Rooyen FOLL: Gawn, Rivers, Pickett IC: Langdon, Viney, Tholstrup, Pick 7, Pick 8 EMERG: Sparrow, Howes, Laurie Casey B: White, Adams, Berry (b) HB: Howes, McDonald, Moniz-Wakefield (a) C: Sinnema (a), Laurie, Sharp HF: Henderson (a), Johnson, Mentha (b) F: McAdam, Kentfield, Jefferson FOLL: Campbell, Sparrow, Pick 29 IC: Heath, Pick 43, Woewodin (a)

We are not going to win the flag, if we finish 2nd it will be a miracle can't expect to have half our midfield out and compete against the best.

Kossie in the midfield. I have my senior team and Casey team in the list manager thread. Humphrey won't be traded, so we won't trade Petracca.

OK HF: Chandler, van Rooyen, Fritsch F: Melksham, Mihochek, Heath

B: Lever, May, Bowey HB: Salem, Turner, Rivers C: Culley (a), Langford, Windsor HF: Petracca, Petty, Chandler F: Fritsch, Mihocek, Melksham FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Pickett IC: Lindsay, Langdon, Sparrow, Tholstrup, Heath EMERG: Howes, Laurie, Adams Casey B: White, Adams, Berry (b) HB: Howes, McDonald, Moniz-Wakefield (a) C: Sinnema (a), Laurie, Sharp HF: Henderson (a), Johnson, McAdam F: Kentfield (a), van Rooyen, Jefferson FOLL: Campbell, Pick 24, Pick 29 IC: Mentha (b), Pick 43, Rookie pick 5

HF: Petracca, Petty, Chandler F: Melksham, Mihochek, Fritsch IC: Tholstrup, Heath

I agree she should replace Heath but who's gonna replace her role? B: Colvin, Gillard HB: Chaplin, O'Hehir, Goldrick C: McNamara, Hanks, Paxman HF: Bannan, Harris, Wotherspoon F: Gall, Zanker FOLL: Pearce, Hore, Fitzsimon IC: Pisano, D.Taylor, Ebert, Mahony, Johnson

Why is there a likelyhood of Trac leaving? They won't give us Humphrey we won't give them Trac.

Yeah everyone is wrong. Reid would be a top 3 pick this year.

It looks like we will get a pick in the 20's I'd be happy with that. A pick in the 30's was a bit low.

Cooled off on Derksen hey. I'm surprised thought he'd be part of the Oliver deal. No great loss. Do they think Sinnema will be selected in the draft? I can't see us using our picks above 50 on anyone except White and Sinnema. What pick will we have to give for Heath? I'm thinking the Spargo compo. Is that too much?

After day 1 of the trade I find it hard to see a Petracca deal without Humphrey in it, so Petracca stays and it looks like May stays which I'm comfortable about he can be controlled. Oliver can't so it looks like Oliver is the only one that will go. I hope he rejuvenates his career at GWS. Pick 41 for Heath Pick 59 for Miochek Pick 64 for White McVee for pick 33 Oliver for Derksen B: Lever, May, Bowey HB: Salem, Turner, Rivers C: Culley (a), Langford, Windsor HF: Petracca, Petty, Chandler F: Fritsch, Mihochek, Melksham FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Pickett IC: Lindsay, Langdon, Sparrow, Tholstrup, Heath Casey B: White, Adams, Derksen HB: Howes, McDonald, Moniz-Wakefield (a) C: Sinnema (a), Pick 27, Pick 33 HF: Henderson(a), Johnson, Sharp F: Kentfield (a), van Rooyen, Jefferson FOLL: Campbell, Laurie, Rookie IC: McAdam, Mentha(b), Berry (b)

I say no change to this week's team. They are playing some great football, hopefully they can fix up thier last quarters.

I'd want more. Walter can't get a game for GC.

I want what's best for Clarry and that is unfortunately leaving us, but I think Collingwood is the wrong move. It would be easier on us we just trade Clarry for Mihochek but it's not in his best interest of Clarry I tell you why? They are too big. The pressure on Hill and Houston was emense another bad year by Clarry with his off field issues I fear for his wellbeing. He needs to go Sydney who don't seem to want him. Brisbane, I don't think Gold Coast could handle both Ugle-Hagan and Oliver and GWS who I think are easily the best fit for Oliver. He gets to fly under the radar and gets the fire back in the belly. He has a great mentor in Hogan let's face it once Fremantle traded him he was on the scrapheap, now he's a star, a Coleman Medalist. No one can take that away from Hogan. It's GWS or he is lost to football which would be a real shame.

Hate is a strong word probably shouldn't have used it. Annoyed is a better word.

So your telling me he's annoyed at the club for no reason? Yeah right.

Well Trac isn't getting it what's the difference? He ruined our dynasty if you can't handle that then I can't help you. The sooner we get rid of this culture killer the better off we will be. You got me wrong I love him he's a premiership player but he's burned too many bridges. It's great that we are keeping Trac I'm glad.

I'm not sure my memory is not that good but I thought it was Lamb

I'll stick up for my football club thank you very much. Shaun hates Melbourne hates what they done to his son and let Oliver get away with it. I think his son only has himself to blame.

I don't necessarily agree with you that we need to rebuild without May, Oliver and Petracca. Petracca would be a huge loss because he's done nothing wrong. Oliver and May are trouble makers. We need them out to build a better culture. It's not all doom and gloom.