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Rigoni done some good things played well even Johnson played well didn't have a bad player on the ground totally dominated. Hanks is sublime and how good was Wortherspoon? We are playing well but I still think we are playing for second. North are just that good.

Duff-Tyler and Duursma are the 2. Sharp and Marsh are nothing special.

They have just announced the side and O'Hehir and S.Taylor are out, Johnson and Rigoni are in. Big blow S.Taylor has been one of the most improved players this year and O'Hehir is a young gun. Johnson and Rigoni have done very little. No Campbell or D.Taylor who I thought would be improvements on Johnson and Rigoni. We still should win but I'm worried especially if you come out like we did in the last quarter last week.

I think it says everything about the draft that Richmond want to trade pick 3 and 4 there is no talent there. It's 2 deep not including Uwland who's an academy pick. I don't want picks I want players.

They won't give away any other those picks they need them to get Uwland and Patterson. If anything they need more picks.

Alright. B: Lever, Petty, McVee HB: Salem, Turner, Bowey C: Culley, Flanders, Langford HF: Pickett, van Rooyen, Chandler F: Fritsch, Miochek, Melksham FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Petracca IC: Lindsay, Rivers, Viney, Windsor, Rosas Casey B: White, Adams, Derksen HB: Howes, McDonald, Moniz-Wakefield C: Sinnema, Laurie, Pick 23 HF: Henderson, Johnson, Sharp F: McAdam, Kentfield, Jefferson FOLL: Heath, Sparrow, Tholstrup IC: Campbell, Mentha, Berry

I don't think Derksen has been guaranteed a game at all. A longer contract yes I think it's 3 years but that's all he'll have to earn his spot just like the rest.

HOW DARE YOU I'M FUMING! Well I think we will trade Petracca for Flanders, Walter and Read throw in Rosas for nothing and we will throw in 23 for their academies. If we get Read and Walter we won't need Miochek. B: Lever, Petty, McVee HB: Salem, Turner, Bowey C: Culley, Flanders, Langford HF: Pickett, Walter, Chandler F: Melksham, Read, Fritsch FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Rivers IC: Lindsay, Langdon, Windsor, Viney SUB: Rosas Casey B: White, Adams, Derksen HB: Howes, McDonald, Moniz-Wakefield C: Sinnema, Laurie, Sharp HF: Henderson, Johnson, McAdam F: Kentfield, van Rooyen, Jefferson FOLL: Heath, Sparrow, Tholstrup IC: Campbell, Mentha, Berry

2013 draft T.Boyd J.Kelly J.Billings M.Bontempelli K.Kolodjashnij M.Scharenberg J.Aish L.McDonald C.Salem N.Freeman My top 10 M.Bontempelli 4 P.Cripps 13 Z.Merrett 26 J.Kelly 2 J.Sicily 56 A.Aliir 44 C.Salem 9 T.Barrass 43 J.Impey 21 K.Amon 68 Notasble Mentions: D.Sheed 11, M.Crouch 23, R.Lobb 29, G.Hewett 32, T.Nankervis 35, A.Pearce 37, B.Brown 47

2012 draft L.Whitfield J.O'Rourke L.Plowman J.Toumpas J.Stringer J.Macrae O.Wines S.Mayes N.Vlastuin J.Daniher My top 10 B.Grundy 18 J.Viney 26 J.Daniher 10 L.Whitfield 1 O.Wines 7 N.Vlastuin 9 J.Stringer 5 J.Macrae 6 M.Wood 41 T.Membry 46 Notable Mentions : K.McIntosh 31

2011 draft J.Patton S.Coniglio D.Tyson W.Hoskin-Elliott M.Buntine C.Wingard N.Haynes B.Longer A.Tomlinson L.Sumner My top 10 T.Greene 11 L.Neale 58 J.Witts 67 S.Coniglio 2 T.Mitchell 21 B.Hill 33 E.Yeo 30 C.Wingard 6 W.Hoskin-Elliott 4 N.Haynes 7 Notable mentions: S.Docherty 12, T.Adams 13

2010 D.Swallow H.Bennell S.Day A.Gaff J.Polec R.Conca J.Caddy D.Heppell D.Prestia D.Gorringe My top 10 T.Lynch 11 I.Smith 19 T.Liberatore 41 J.Howe 33 D.Prestia 9 D.Heppell 8 A.Gaff 4 L.Parker 40 J.Darling 26 T.McDonald 53 Notable mentions: B.Smith 14, C.Guthrie 23, R.Lester 28, J.Cripps 24

Funny that I just looked at it and your right. It was better than I thought it was.

If you can't handle facts I can't help you! Take another look at the Sparrow draft and tell me if that was a good draft? This is worse that's why we got out it to get 2 picks in last years draft. The top 20 last year would all be in the top 2 to 3 this year. This draft is no good no matter which way you look at it. The talent coming out Victoria is weak except for the first 2 picks in the draft who are Victorians. There is a little bit of talent coming out of SA but not much.

That is where we will be if we rebuild because Tassie will take all the picks leaving us with no picks just like 2012 again. We could finish higher with a healthy Trac, Clarry, Gawn and recruit Flanders and Miochek.

Look at Gawn look at Dangerfield 30 is the new 25. Petracca could play on for another 5 years. Flanders could be another bust in 5 years. We shouldn't be looking at Petracca's age.

The silence is deafening. Which is a shame I wish he would just come out and say I'm going nowhere.

I realize there is a shift to rebuilding but it's the wrong time Tassie are coming they will take all the draft picks. It's not the right time if we are still on the bottom then good luck moving up the ladder. Be careful what you wish for.

Yes it is. This draft is horrible it goes 2 players deep West Coast will be licking thier lips the rest will get ordinary players. I take you back to the draft when Sparrow and Jordon got drafted. It was a horribly weak draft but Taylor did well to secure them considering what came before them and what came after them. This draft is worse the worst of all time. I trust Taylor to do his best if there is no talent there there is no talent there. I don't want draft picks in the worst draft of all time I want players. Gold Coast have said Humphrey, Read and Walter are off limits. I say fair enough with Humphrey he's a generational player but Read and Walter no way. You have to give Read, Walter and Flanders or you are not getting Petracca minimum. You can thrown in Rosas for nothing and we'll throw in pick 23 for more draft capitol.

What's absurd is your trades it doesn't benefit us at all. To say Petracca doesn't make a difference is just stupid. He's our second best player. It doesn't bother me because thankfully your not making the decisions. My concern is Lamb. He's proven that he just wants to get deals done even if that don't benefit us like giving away second rounders for Frost and McAdam. I trust Taylor I don't trust Lamb.

Her pressure is pretty good but she can't kick. It's tight for spots. Someone is going to miss out.

Trac's not at his best yet. If he gets back to his best along with Oliver and if we pick up Flanders and Miochek we could make the 8. Without him we are rebuilding which means pain especially with Tassie coming in I don't think we can afford to rebuild.

It's not win win win. It's not a win for us what picks are we going to get from Adelaide? They have none? When has Flanders become a star like Trac? I fear we could win the spoon the way the Trac trade is going.

We had a good win against West Coast with Zanker on fire early, but we would be disappointed with our last quarter out pressured and out scored against. We have to put the pressure on for all 4 quarters, not just when we feel like it. My possible team B: Colvin, Gillard HB: Goldrick, S.Taylor, Chaplin C: McNamara, Hanks, Paxman HF: Fitzsimon, Harris, Bannan F: Gall, Zanker FOLL: Pearce, Hore, Heath IC: O'Hehir, Pisano, Wortherspoon, D.Taylor, Campbell EMERG: Mahony, Ebert, Rigoni

Ridley has said he's going nowhere. That's all Trac has to do and it stops. Why he wants it to go on and on is beyond me.