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Yep, the next Rhys Palmer The award means little. Rowell is clearly the biggest rising star in the game

How did Rowell not win the rising star?? Clearly the best kid in the game. Played three and 3 BOGs Serong will be a solid inside mid. But could be another Rhys Palmer

I get what you are saying. But if I was picking a team and had to choose. I’d choose the Bont. Butler is overrated. Not close to AA quality for me

Cam Guthrie AA. Standards have slipped

Reckon I’d take the Bont on the HF line over Butler. His second half if the year was poor

He was playing good footy when he got injured. He would have been a chance to pick up a premiership medal this year, injury aside all the best Jack, no doubt you'll flourish in retirement from footy

Also I wouldn't read too much into the club being open to offers for a player. At least half our list would be in that bracket

Pruess is too one-dimensional. we need a back-up ruck who can at least play fwd a bit. We should get a second rounder for him. then trade in a young ruckman with a few preseasons under his belt, from a club with a surplus. or look to the VFL etc for a back up ruck and we come out on top trade wise.

thanks for the info I do find it hard to imagine a player manager discouraging a big money trade to line his pockets though...

Viney is 26yo and 5 months so he'll be 30 going into his final year of the contract, turning 31yo that year I'd love to wrap him up for his best years. I reckon he will improve and drive the group forward

He’s a club champ and still playing well. No way he’ll be let go

Jack’s got that ‘how did we lose to Sydney we should be playing finals next week’ - look looks how I feel

He’s soft and doesn’t tackle. Can’t get a game at north. where do we sign??

Some Demonlanders underestimating Jack Viney as usual. He can play a fair bit better and still came third. A good chance for another Bluey next year. For those saying he looked weird - good chance he is still filthy at himself and the team for another failed year. No one cares more than Jack

Someone buy Melksham a mirror coz he needs to take a good hard look at himself. his BNF result reflects his poor year

is there a general thread on trade rumours/deals involving non MFC clubs? Im wondering where Daniher might go?

Well you asked to list what ways he is a good leader and I gave them. any response to my points? I reckon he could be viewed as prickly and thats ok - he sets extremely high standards for himself and everyone else. if someone didnt meet them or was messing around, I think he would crack it. I see him similar to a Buckley type personality, 'why doesnt everyone care as much as I do'? he does have improvement with leadership to go though. he needs to be able to relate to kids to be able to influence them and I am also not sure how vocal he is on and off field.

is this based on anything you've heard or just gut feel? I don't think we bat deep enough through the midfield to getting rid of one of our best players. usually you would think one of our inside mids would be injured at any given time, so we need back up.

by "completely new club" I think and hope he means - attitude and professionalism losing to Freo/Sydney and beating Saints/GWS shows we still have a soft underbelly. We have the talent to be 5-6th easily but our lack of killer instinct and to do whatever is necesary to win is still lacking. unload a few pea hearts and recruit/draft more lads that will do anything to win. culture shift still needed

him and Gawn were apparently the two standouts from a leadership perspective. He has the respect of his teammates. Trains and plays like a maniac. you wouldn't see him laughing or groping during a 3/4 time address from the coach. he sets the tone often early in games with toughness and mental application and in the two finals we won, he was terrific. If he was to leave which I don't think he will, it would be because he is disillusioned with the lack of professionalism of his teammates to turn up each session/each game with the right attitude

aren't you a genius. first round draft picks look better than mid season draft top up players. you need to have a 45th player on your list. quite likely they won't make it. we gave him a crack and he didnt make it. we move on

For a club desperately lacking onfield leadership and elite professional standards, losing Jack is not an option imo he needs to improve his game no doubt, study some tapes of Libba and how he handballs early and long outside the packs.

If we had of beaten Sydney we would be playing St Kilda in a final next week. god that is hard to stomach, and the pies would have been knocked out of finals 5 weeks to go into season. St Kilda, Sydney, Freo, GWS, Bombers how Melbourne is it to win the hard ones and lose the easy ones. We are so mentally soft, it's always been the same old story

The solution to vague click bait thread titles? tough one...

He’s Worth about a third rounder. I wish he could come back but it’s very unlikely