Demonsone

Spot on, hawks are moving into their second home base in the last 25yrs & we are still hopeful of a horse race track which the majority of the current list will be retired or playing for another club!

How is that the hawks are closer to a flag after 10 years since their last than the saints, blues & us???

Any insight as to why we overlooked Hogan, as he spoke to the club 2020 trade period, We took BB played his part, but I’d say hogan & Neitz were our last contested power fwds

Posters saying we robbed the premiership of the dogs …. 74 points isn’t robbing & it’s 4 years ago a lot has changed including god knows what game plan we are trying to pay! Posts on Trac are win poor taste, at ground level he was frustrated & trying he’s guts out, need to consider how much footy he’s missed plus a long way back physically & mentally

What is it? Do the players know? How about Goody? He flipped back to the old one mid season 2023 as they were losing in the same way! Yet what’s the 2025 version get smashed out of the middle, & 10 goal loses, he hasn't evolved needs to go as he’s destroying the list

Goodwin used to say contest & defence is our DNA & we won a flag , what’s our DNA now?? Do the players know? You reap what you sow, Schache, Hunter, Fullerton, Billing’s, Grundy, Mccadam, vs what we left, Bedford, Jordan, Harmes Jackson , hunt , weiderman, how have we improved our list???

The alarm bells have been ringing for a few seasons ! The utter failure to trade in fwds, & other experienced talent whilst in the top 4, the culture issues raising its ugly head & gifting games to Oliver is at the core! The flipping of game plan mid season & now what’s he’s text move after 2 x10 goal loses?? He’s time is up & thanks for the flag but you mange to push us over the Cliff!!!

At the game pathetic! Goodwin has destroyed this team, has no idea ,

Hawthorn are moving to a purpose built facility for a reason, let’s not continue the band aid approach, hawks have been able to negotiate 2 moves and we are still going around in circles

The continue noise the club brings upon itself just want stop! Strong clubs keep this stuff in house & deal with it! We just seem to always come out wth a story around adversity to achieve what recognition?? What’s concerning is allowing Oliver to play in the seniors without a preseason, imagine what the other 43 players who busted their rear ends must of though? That’s your culture issue! Sure help Oliver but still needed to earn his spot

It’s called miss management, [censored] drafting, refused to rest players in 22, failed to fix our fwd line since 21, played Oliver who didn’t have a preseason, great culture building for others busting their butts at Casey! a club starved of success for 57 years couldn’t handle success,

Question why they haven’t been able to attract any decent trades vs what the last 3 premiers have, The handling of Oliver is a stinker should never have played seniors last year until he earned it via Casey that’s culture setting

Premiership closed after 2023, failed to top up with quality players, Gawn & May getting older & our game plan is what? He’s flip flopped, possibly see trade requests from our remaining talent

He’s time's up not sure why he’s contract was extended a 2nd time after the flag, he flipped the game plan back to the old one mid season in 24 & now has a new one, which failed miserably against a bottom side, discussing Gawn issues at a presser is bs keep it in house or don’t play him, in 2022 refused to use Casey players & manage our best who hobbled into finals , Bedford left for this reason, refused to play Grundy in the finals and had Schace as back up for Gawn. Playing Oliver instead of making him earn his spot via Casey last season. Our best player Trac supposedly wanting out due to culture issues, this lays at the feet of Goodwin

Have posted about our trades since our flag a few times, can’t knock their drafting if young kids but when you compared what the Cats, lions, pies & hawks have acquired ready made talent vs zip! If you consider premiership clock we were in is baffling, was it cap space as we committed to Trac, Brayshaw, Viney to long term deals.

A back story relates to personal issue

I hope all is well with Gawn, he’s given so much a 7 xAA, bottom line though there a 23 other players who should have lifted, they played at a very poor standard! It may be just time for Goody sure our only living premiership coach but something just isn’t right tactical, game plan.

Just heard Goodwin presser only a portion was played around Gawn having a personnel issue but wouldn’t go into it saying everyone has a back story

Goodwin game plan really conceded 8 goals by a bottom team what have we become! I have been asking since 2022 who have we traded in to improve our list since winning the flag, compare to Cats, pies & hawks. I fear holding onto our talent will be a struggle.

From best defence to leaking 8 goals in the last qtr, tough times ahead, it’s game plan & personnel, what chance do we have of trading in good experience players when we couldn’t after the flag & finishing top 4…

Gone from the best defence and allowed 6 goals by a bottom team Goodwin coming down to coach from the bench when the games is gone says it all! Has completely lost control of the bs game plan

Pathetic & Goodwin coaching from the bench ..

Game not over but Same old issues bombing into fw50 nothing has changed! Other clubs trade in experience key positions whilst all we can do is draft vfl players( no disrespect to the Werribee boys) look at who hawks have trading, pies getting Houston, cats etc, our trading since 21 is pathetic if they win will be a miracle

Hate to say it but such a typical dees loss coming up …. Expecting so much more from how they played last week to lose this honestly … one can only imagine the crowd v the suns next week

Bomber fans misery continues , have no pity what they did to us in 2000 & smug supporters of the time