Demonsone

Plenty of Carlton & Essendon prime time games with floggings

My point is the draw for home games, GWS, GC , Essendon gather round, Freo a gate receipt paradise

Afl have shafted us with the draw, our first game to attract a decent crowd is Anzac Eve.. 7 games into the season

Oliver needed to be traded at the end of 23, the writing was on the wall

Oliver should have been traded, part of the culture issues, should go after Reid and include Oliver as part of the deal

Once again it seems no noise around our club targeting big names, we need to be brave and target Reid, include Oliver as part of the deal

He hasn’t evolved & alarm bells by his own admission who flipped back to the old game plan in 2024, they failed to trade in any decent power fwd to take a contest mark from the tonne of fwd50 entries! They need to be bold and trade Oliver & target fwds

Media saying 6 weeks for Goodwin to turn things around or gone

We are a mess! Both on & off the field, no ceo , president interim, assistant coaches, who is our mids coach? His only game plan is contest & defence, has keeping Oliver who was rewarded with games last year split the group

Media taking us to task & rightfully so! We are at sea , no CEO , interim President, all this talk about love is fluff and broadcasting this to the AFL world makes us look amateur! The numbers in the last 2 weeks across all metrics of the game are virtually the worst across all the teams, we are in deep trouble across all parts of the club once again!

On first crack David King said it’s time to break up the midfield & play Langford , Windsor etc showed vision of our mids Oliver & trac not working hard enough to run back and the brand of contest & defense will not work, said need to trade Oliver

By his own admission he has struggled a number of times in 2019 and 2024, admitted to flipping back to the old game plan mid season in 24 after the new one saw huge scores kicked against, so what’s different to the current one, either it’s flawed or the players don't understand. So there will be be a breaking point and who would the candidates??

Why was Goody contract extend twice, understand in 22 but why again in 23?? Unfortunately all recent coaches Longmire cooked, Simpson cooked so who’s available??

Who is our midfield coach Jones? What experience does he have?? I love the guy & the players would but we’re getting smashed in the midfield

Well Tim lamb should be moved on & I'm sure the coaches have a say on list management, regardless they have failed, compare who the Cats, Swans, pies & lions trading in of experience talent, we have failed miserably! The culture issues which caused Houston to change his mind. Goodwin has no other game plan than contest & defence, the new one failed last season & switched back mid season & this year it’s failing miserably…

Spot on, hawks are moving into their second home base in the last 25yrs & we are still hopeful of a horse race track which the majority of the current list will be retired or playing for another club!

How is that the hawks are closer to a flag after 10 years since their last than the saints, blues & us???

Any insight as to why we overlooked Hogan, as he spoke to the club 2020 trade period, We took BB played his part, but I’d say hogan & Neitz were our last contested power fwds

Posters saying we robbed the premiership of the dogs …. 74 points isn’t robbing & it’s 4 years ago a lot has changed including god knows what game plan we are trying to pay! Posts on Trac are win poor taste, at ground level he was frustrated & trying he’s guts out, need to consider how much footy he’s missed plus a long way back physically & mentally

What is it? Do the players know? How about Goody? He flipped back to the old one mid season 2023 as they were losing in the same way! Yet what’s the 2025 version get smashed out of the middle, & 10 goal loses, he hasn't evolved needs to go as he’s destroying the list

Goodwin used to say contest & defence is our DNA & we won a flag , what’s our DNA now?? Do the players know? You reap what you sow, Schache, Hunter, Fullerton, Billing’s, Grundy, Mccadam, vs what we left, Bedford, Jordan, Harmes Jackson , hunt , weiderman, how have we improved our list???

The alarm bells have been ringing for a few seasons ! The utter failure to trade in fwds, & other experienced talent whilst in the top 4, the culture issues raising its ugly head & gifting games to Oliver is at the core! The flipping of game plan mid season & now what’s he’s text move after 2 x10 goal loses?? He’s time is up & thanks for the flag but you mange to push us over the Cliff!!!

At the game pathetic! Goodwin has destroyed this team, has no idea ,

Hawthorn are moving to a purpose built facility for a reason, let’s not continue the band aid approach, hawks have been able to negotiate 2 moves and we are still going around in circles

The continue noise the club brings upon itself just want stop! Strong clubs keep this stuff in house & deal with it! We just seem to always come out wth a story around adversity to achieve what recognition?? What’s concerning is allowing Oliver to play in the seniors without a preseason, imagine what the other 43 players who busted their rear ends must of though? That’s your culture issue! Sure help Oliver but still needed to earn his spot