Demonsone

What’s occurred since 21 flag, is well documented and we are not isolated, our culture was comprised & cost us a flag, premiership coach & Norm Smith! you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to work out was going on, just look at our departures and recent retirements!

The oxygen that both him & Oliver sucked up was crazy & wrong by both club and players… say what you want but ultimately when it’s about the player it become selfish by them, Oliver I can accept but Trac I expected better

meanwhile crows have almost finished theirs vs going around in circles https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CLPXEqw6W/?mibextid=wwXIfr

It’s a very sad end to what should have been a our only Norm Smith be one club player, righting was in the wall when Goodwin admitted lack of care hence the BS theme of love etc he become unhinged after his serious injury which was handled horribly post surgery in communications within the club, who was responsible for this Richardson/Goodwin, he certainly questioned the professionalism of the playing group, what was discussed at that meeting with the leaders at the end of 2024 no one will ever know… having said that there is responsibility on his actions and not being a leader who wanted to be part of the solution and showed a lack of respect towards his premiership teammates saying it was his job at the B&F and walking out on a club with 4 yrs left in his contract!

Watching Jackson hurts, Watching Hogan what should have been

Blues still want state of origin

With the loss of Viney will this expose us…I would of thought getting another seasoned mid body, Tom Mitchell was available as a stop gap and help the young mids, a Brownlow medalist and premiership player

Hawks won 4 flags including a 3 peat… I’m all for a new purpose build location but Waverley would be a better proposition in the interim logistically, we have issues attracting talent as Casey is too far .. Goodwin took a swipe on the way out on this

After winning the flag much occurred, perhaps look at former presidents for answers

Not across all the spots available on the list & cap, but with should the club have looked at Tom Mitchell as a back up, with so much experience leaving and injury to Viney.. Steele will be good …

Very good sources, but 1st & foremost hope Harmes is ok moving forward

Connect the dots of events since the premiership with certain players & why our Norm Smith left..

Hope the NFL watched the AFL premiership cup presentation, the NFL focuses on the owner, coach & MVP, boring, the players should be lifting the trophy, AFL atmosphere & honouring the players as fans admire the players!

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Very sad demise…. To see our premiership heroes depart still young, what occurred after the 21 flag to our list is a reflection of how poor our footy dept managed player issues, people can read what they want into this, but Hope he gets the help he needs… thanks for that kick to Fritsch that started the come back, will always be a premiership hero

Gosch paddock .. paddock says it all its sub par as AAMI facilities are shared with soccer & league, we got kicked off when the womens soccer tournament…

Since Burgess left our fitness & conditioning has gone backwards!

Hawks won 4 flags including a 3 peat at Waverley! Prob have outgrown it but I would rather us all under 1 roof until hopefully Caulfield is ever done,

Is that a fact? May be not a bad outcome, hawks won 4 flags at Waverley, lower cost outcome!

Unfortunately History is on the side of failure

Not a great gambling man but you can see this road leading to a dead end

Any insights of what the sponsorships are worth $$$ I worked in the lubricants and Penrith were a major competitor their sponsorships in motor racing is substantial but unsure if this would translate to an AfL club

Why is everything so bloody difficult and complex for our club, I question why Pert & board chose Caulfield with so many stake holders and variables, considering the time was spent on the failed site around AAMI park precinct which was touted in 2018! We are now knee deep in Caulfield with a possibility it may fail whilst the rest of the competition as jumped secured their home bases! Hawks have managed 2 in the last 25yrs no where near hawthorn! Goodwin may have taken a shot on his way out but saying he want miss driving to Casey should ring hard in the heads of the board!

Maybe Oliver & Trac topics should be permanently closed, the oxygen they have received, understandably they will be forever premiershiP heroes and the action of both themselves & the club turned pair shape ..

If Caulfield falls over it reinforces another huge failure of why our continues to go after so many complex locations, look at Hawthorn they found a stand alone site and made it happen, can see another decade of going around in circles