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Mods this should be removed, this unbridled character assassination should not be tolerated anywhere in society let alone in the hallowed posts of DLand. Frog should be flogged for making such a suggestion in the plain sight of minors (Twiggy Forrest and his mates) I am appalled (not by this but generally) not only that I am revolting.

Is it wrong to want Hogan to chicken wing Frawley?

My recollection of the AFL agreeing to be under the WADA code was that federal government funding was at risk, including money to be spent on stadiums. If the AFL forged ahead without WADA it would be the beginning of the end of the AFL as the number 1 code in Australia.

This is recommended reading. Even the reader discussion afterwards is good.

I hope Hogan doesn't hurt/humiliate Frawley more than necessary.

witch hunt Word Origin noun 1. an intensive effort to discover and expose disloyalty, subversion,dishonesty, or the like, usually based on slight, doubtful, or irrelevant evidence. I don't have a problem with that.

What is the point of pointing?

Wouldn't it be funny if Essendon were innocent. They had a program that may have been at the cutting edge but legal, after the AD tip-off they employed people to come in at midnight and destroy all the records. Now they can't defend themselves. hahahahahhahahhahahahhh. I think that is better than if they did cheat. The players will be OK and the club cops it. Love it.

Bomber Thompson on AFL360 said he saw the Thymomodulin spread sheet. "On A3 paper the big one, an excel spreadsheet." So in order to print an excel spreadsheet first it needs to be on a computer. If it was on a computer there should be copies. Delloittes did a forensic search and collected copies of everything. Everything collected would have been documented. My guess is that the "Hird dog ate my lunch document" was collected and exists. Also it is inconsequential to the case in that it was a draft cover up document or related to other supplements. Either way it is another red herring.. Edit: Or the EFC destroyed it. Which if it could prove their innocence would be ironic.

Beeb I heard that he would turn up to the opening of a fridge.

WORLD RECORD CASE http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/essendon-34-to-set-world-precedent-former-asada-boss-richard-ings-20150513-gh0s9p.html edit: From the Age article The matter is unprecedented because it will be the first time that WADA has appeared before CAS prosecuting an allegation of anti-doping violations against several players without the benefit of a positive drug test, Ings said. He said it was likely WADA believed there had been violations at Essendon and viewed the AFL tribunal's decision as setting a precedent which would be followed elsewhere.

Pretty sure Jones is carrying an injury , his shoulder is giving him trouble. A mere mortal would have missed 4 to 6

Like Arnie and Danny deVito. No, I mean the way they run and turn the surprising hardness when bumped. They both go straight at the ball and are very hard to knock off line. Cameron is a far more natural kick. Edit: I likened T Mac with Jeremy Cameron

Like you mono?

I think he's great, and will get better. I suppose I am gun shy after Scully, Blease, Trengrove, Watts, Gysberts, Cook, must I go on. I hope he is a star and plays a long and successful career for us. I am seeing what you are seeing and I'm excited, but i'm trying to keep a lid on it.

And comparing him to Lockett and Dunstall isn't? My point was it is very easy to be carried away with good performances from a young player, a point I think I exemplified by mentioning Gysberts. He averaged around 20 possessions per game in his first season. Good judges nominated him twice for the rising star. I rate Hogan, he could be anything, John Coleman, David Schwartz, Paul Salmon, Alan Jackovich, Max Bailey, Luke Molan if you get my drift. Let us not get carried away let's just enjoy the journey while it lasts.

Chill please gentlemen. I remember a certain Jordan Gysberts getting 26 disposal in his first game and a rising star nomination in his 2nd game. A second rising star nomination in round 11 the next year with 30 disposals against Essendon. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Why would they play for peanuts? Don't you think 2nd level clubs would be clamoring to get a Patton, Boyd, Petracca, Brayshaw, Kelly, Bontempelli, Aish, Salem.......? Surely the AFL clubs would be very interested in players playing for their feeder clubs. Perhaps a pre draft to VFL SANFL WAFL etc clubs, those pre drafted could be put on a contract from the AFL similar to Cricket Australia contract.

Hi, Sendoff, Thanks for the list of your favorite 34 past and present Essendon players.

Tmac reminds me of Jeremy Cameron.

The convicted drug dealer and friend of James Hird is a class act. He says he won't be giving evidence. Then "This is a little like the field umpire making a decision and then going to the video replay," Charter said. That sounds like a good idea to me if it gets the correct decision.

Like Steph Martin? he was 25 when he left us. Max Gawn is 23.

I think they got a free case of premium beer.

Well I just did a google search, guess what? Google doesn't know either. Wikipedia - nothing! Macca it's a mystery.