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Obviously Beyond Blue has a lot more work to do to correct peoples ignorance about depression. Staggering really

Major depression is a life threatening illness and doesn't correlate with material possessions ir other externals. I think this discussion has gone far enough beyond saying we wish Mitch every happiness for the future

A good guy Maxie - nice story

Like the way has built relationships and now is enforcing standards and compliance. Accountability will now be taken to a new level and the coaches will see who's salvageable and who moves on.

Clisby has to be ahead of Srauss and probably Terlich. Could replace Evans as an onballer - Evans was diabolical on Sunday

Oops that was meant to be Clisby

Clips by has much better balance, poise and disposal than many of our other running players and accumulates possessions. Am a fan and feel he should be in the side soon.

Probably wants a trade to Freo

The Chinese character for wisdom is a big ear over a small mouth - I'm sure Roos is a wise man and has the humility to listen and seek answers from many sources. He'll enjoy the challenge and that's why he needs to commit to more time.

I think that's what everybody has been saying

They can be next cabs off the rank

I don't believe a serial offender is an easy target. There has to be accountability

You're getting grumpy D31.Time for bed

I think we have missed Garland big time. Very creative off the backline

Not sure even having our key position players would make a difference if our runners can't hit a target. It was good to see Roos give Terlich a spray about his disposal - too often it goes unaddressed - at least in view of the fans

I'm not suggesting Spencer doesn't try but Mumford had 60 hitouts -2short of Dempseys record and not 1mark. On the clubs website he was touted as having a breakout year and ready to take over the no 1 ruck spot.

Would be good if he could occasionally take a mark or kick a goal

Tyson is the least of our worries. it's the turnover specialists that are killing us.

Commit to stay on for 3 - 5 years and undertake a radical restructure of the list.

The level of anger vented on this forum makes me think the club is at a tipping point and now is the time for some leadership. I know the president wants to remain in the background but I'm not sure this is an option at the moment. really believe the coaches and CEO we have are elite but the list is substandard. More change of senior coaches etc will only add to the problem so we need Jackson and Roos to fully buy in for as long as it takes. If not we may as we'll fold.

I spend far too much time, emotional energy and money on this rabble. Would prefer a merger with the Wycheproof demon. Half the current side would battle to get a game there.

It makes we wonder what karmic debt Dee supporters are repaying. Perhaps in past lives we were mass murders or even worse, Collingwood cheer squad members.

it's quite clear Terlich, M Jones, Bail, Spencer, Evans, Fitz, Byrnes and possibly Grimes and Trengove are not up to it and need to be replaced ASAP. Many others are marginal at best. Had a gut full.

Wonder how Chip made to the leadership group. There seems to be a disconnect between effort at training and on the field .Mind you, he's not alone.

Like to see Blease, Kent and/or Evans get a go. No future for Byrnes or Bail I believe so why play them.