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The handball to Oliver was superb.

http://afl.com.au/news/2018-05-07/close-call-but-hogan-cleared-of-staging

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-07/match-review-full-statement-round-seven Nathan Jones, Melbourne, has been charged with misconduct against Jack Newnes, St Kilda, during the third quarter of the Round Seven match between Melbourne and St Kilda, played at Etihad Stadium on Sunday May 6, 2018. In summary, he can accept a $1500 sanction with an early plea. Misconduct is fixed financial sanction of $2500. The player can accept a $1500 sanction with an early plea. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact between St Kilda’s Jake Carlisle and Melbourne’s Jesse Hogan from the third quarter of Sunday’s match was assessed. The ball was kicked through for a point with Carlisle and Hogan coming towards the goal square, after the ball has passed the line and registered a score. On the behind-goal vision, Carlisle turns toward Hogan and makes contact with an open hand to the throat area of the Melbourne player. The umpire in control of the play is within five metres and pays a free kick to Hogan for high contact. It was the view of the Match Review Officer that there was high contact made to the Melbourne player and the contact was not excessively exaggerated by Hogan. It was also the view of the match review officer that the force used in the contact was below that required for a charge to be laid, and no further action was required after the free kick was paid.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-07/match-review-full-statement-round-seven Contact between St Kilda’s Jake Carlisle and Melbourne’s Jesse Hogan from the third quarter of Sunday’s match was assessed. The ball was kicked through for a point with Carlisle and Hogan coming towards the goal square, after the ball has passed the line and registered a score. On the behind-goal vision, Carlisle turns toward Hogan and makes contact with an open hand to the throat area of the Melbourne player. The umpire in control of the play is within five metres and pays a free kick to Hogan for high contact. It was the view of the Match Review Officer that there was high contact made to the Melbourne player and the contact was not excessively exaggerated by Hogan. It was also the view of the match review officer that the force used in the contact was below that required for a charge to be laid, and no further action was required after the free kick was paid.

I want to see more of this. Rd_7__All_The_Goals.mp4

It's beautiful to watch.

Current Injury List (as per Fox Sports): https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/casualty-ward-after-round-7-every-afl-clubs-injury-list/news-story/36f9c9d96a2bc9b65ce52fcfee82849b MELBOURNE Harley Balic (plantar fascia) — 1-2 weeks Lochie Filipovic (rested) — 1 week Dean Kent (hamstring) — 3-4 weeks Mitch King (elbow) — 3 weeks Corey Maynard (hip) — 2 weeks Pat McKenna (hamstring) — indefinite Christian Salem (thumb) — 1 week Aaron vandenBerg (ankle) — 4 weeks Jack Viney (foot) — 1 week

For the history buffs.

The media has hung, drawn and quartered Jesse.

If any action is taken on Hogan then some action must be taken on the umpire as well.

Is Clarry's "overhandballing" an issue or are you A-OK with it too? I'm happy he's getting us first use of the ball and I don't see it as being an issue. I think sometimes he is too quick and clever with his handballs and our players aren't ready for it but that is something the other players need to adjust to. I'd also like to see him kick it more often because he has a beautiful kick but having said that it's about winning and keeping the ball and if that is happening then there's nothing to worry about.

I imagine his role will be to clunk marks and kick goals deep in the forward line like the one he took in the 3rd yesterday. I think the coaches are going down the OMac 2017 route with him and just playing him. No doubt he'll play the next 2 matches and this is a perfect opportunity for him to show his wares.

Here is the footage.

I must need my prescription checked. On closer look he does get hit in the throat. I initially thought the fall was a delayed reaction to the bump inorder to get a free.

It was a slow start in the country’s red centre but the team worked itself out in the finish... THE TEAMS MELBOURNE B: Jayden Hunt, Sam Frost, Neville Jetta HB: Michael Hibberd, Oscar McDonald, Jordan Lewis ? Nathan Jones, Clayton Oliver, Bernie Vince HF: Jeff Garlett, Cameron Pedersen, James Harmes F: Tomas Bugg, Christian Petracca, Mitch Hannan FOLL: Tom McDonald, Dom Tyson, Jack Viney I/C: Jake Melksham, Alex Neal-Bullen, Josh Wagner, Jack Watts EMG: Dean Kent, Christian Salem, Sam Weideman IN: James Harmes, Jake Melksham, Alex Neal-Bullen OUT: Dean Kent (omitted), Christian Salem (suspended), Sam Weideman (omitted) GOLD COAST B: Jesse Joyce, Jack Leslie, Jarrod Harbrow HB: Sean Lemmens, Steven May, Adam Saad ? Alex Sexton, Will Brodie, David Swallow HF: Jarryd Lyons, Tom J. Lynch, Touk Miller F: Brandon Matera, Peter Wright, Jack Martin FOLL: Jarrod Witts, Aaron Hall, Michael Barlow I/C: Brayden Fiorini, Pearce Hanley, Kade Kolodjashnij, Brad Scheer EMG: Keegan Brooksby, Matt Shaw, Mackenzie Willis IN: Will Brodie, Pearce Hanley, David Swallow, OUT: Gary Ablett (shoulder), Jack Bowes (illness), Keegan Brooksby (omitted)

What do you think of the incident?

The commentary about this game during the week among supporters was along the lines of “this is a game that Melbourne should win, but you can’t trust them ...” A fixture against St Kilda in its present state is really one that the club would be expected to win given the recent performances of both sides. But its scarred supporters still feared that this would be precisely the game which it would drop, and as we saw at the sharp end of season 2017, the cost of such a defeat was potentially a huge one. So now that the Demons have trounced the Saints by 39 points, have the supporters regained a little of the trust which had been squandered in the past years? It went a long way toward it, and while many would have wished for an even bigger margin, given the 6 goal lead at ¾ time, it must be remembered that the team has played 3 games in twelve days, and ran out of a bit of puff at the end. Equally as important was the return of the trust that players were showing in each other. A month ago, questions were being asked of Jake Lever but he played his best game since joining the red and blue, and the trust that the back-line now has in each other simply shone out. It was obvious during the game that we could trust Nev Jetta to beat his man, for Oscar McDonald to continue his fine form and do the same and for Michael Hibberd to run rings around the opposition and deliver penetrating kicks forward. This is a backline now showing the confidence and ruthlessness that springboards attacks and denies the opposition any chances. With Jordan Lewis and Bernie Vince mopping up around them the whole structure looks solid and sound. In the middle, Max Gawn continued his All-Australian form in the ruck, simply overwhelming Hickey, particularly around the ground, giving his mids first use of the ball time and time again. And well did they take advantage of it, as Angus Brayshaw put in a close to best on ground performance with 32 touches including 5 clearances and 10 contested possessions. However, the real BOG mantle had to go to Clayton Oliver with 36 touches, 20 … yes 20 contested possessions and 10 clearances. Nathan Jones chipped in with 26 touches, but probably couldn’t get his hands on the ball as much, simply because the other two kept on hogging it! IF Jack Viney returns to the group with this sort of form, the opposition truly have something to worry about. Up forward, we again saw the value of the return of Tom McDonald who kicked two goals straightening up the forward options, and releasing Jesse Hogan from the pressure of multiple defenders, resulting in him scoring three majors. T Mac's presence has also seen Sam Weideman continue to blossom, albeit slowly, and his two goals went a long way to building his confidence in his role in the side. The trust is that Tommy will always put in when needed and create a contest, which also means that the small forwards don’t have to fly for the ball, but rather can crumb when the ball comes to ground. The pity of the performance was not only that Melbourne restored some of that trust for the supporters and themselves, but that St Kilda was simply that bad. Their kicking for goal was simply atrocious and if they had kicked straight from easy set shots, the game would have been a lot, lot closer. The Saints only had 4 less scoring shots for the game but had little structure in the way they brought the ball forward, which played beautifully into the arms of Jake Lever and Oscar McDonald for the whole match. So while it became an easy win, the Saints were never able to capitalise on the unforced errors and turnovers that Alex Neal-Bullen and Don Tyson provided for them the whole game, Tyson topping the clanger list again this week. One of them will surely be relegated next week to fit in Viney (if he is ready), simply because their form has failed to rise in the past month. So some of the TRUST has now been restore. Some of it ... but now it is a MUST that the TRUST be even further bolstered against the Gold Coast Suns next week in Brisbane and looking further, to Carlton a week later. The Demons now sit outside the top eight on percentage and the teams above them all play another side in the top group of eleven next week. To put it another way, half the teams above them must lose some ground next week - a Melbourne win will put it back in the eight, possibly a game clear. The Suns are without May and Lynch and this sort of weakness would normally have seen Melbourne sides take it easy and lose some TRUST. Let’s see if there is more substance in this regard than what we have seen in the past. P.S. If there was a 25K crowd at Etihad today, I’ll eat my hat. Melbourne 5.1.31 8.6.54 13.10.88 16.10.106 St Kilda 2.5.17 3.8.26 7.10.52 9.13.67 Goals Melbourne Hogan 3 T McDonald Weideman 2 Brayshaw Gawn Harmes Jones Neal-Bullen Oliver Petracca Spargo Tyson St Kilda Armitage Long Membrey 2 Dunstan Gresham Hickey Best Melbourne Oliver Hogan Brayshaw Tyson Lewis Hibberd St Kilda Ross Webster Steven Newnes Injuries Melbourne Jetta (head) St Kilda McCartin (head) Gilbert (leg) Savage (ribs) Reports Nil Umpires Foot Fisher McInerney Official crowd 25,496 at Etihad Stadium

TRUST IS A MUST by George on the Outer The commentary about this game during the week among supporters was along the lines of “this is a game that Melbourne should win, but you can’t trust them ...” A fixture against St Kilda in its present state is really one that the club would be expected to win given the recent performances of both sides. But its scarred supporters still feared that this would be precisely the game which it would drop, and as we saw at the sharp end of season 2017, the cost of such a defeat was potentially a huge one. So now that the Demons have trounced the Saints by 39 points, have the supporters regained a little of the trust which had been squandered in the past years? It went a long way toward it, and while many would have wished for an even bigger margin, given the 6 goal lead at ¾ time, it must be remembered that the team has played 3 games in twelve days, and ran out of a bit of puff at the end. Equally as important was the return of the trust that players were showing in each other. A month ago, questions were being asked of Jake Lever but he played his best game since joining the red and blue, and the trust that the back-line now has in each other simply shone out. It was obvious during the game that we could trust Nev Jetta to beat his man, for Oscar McDonald to continue his fine form and do the same and for Michael Hibberd to run rings around the opposition and deliver penetrating kicks forward. This is a backline now showing the confidence and ruthlessness that springboards attacks and denies the opposition any chances. With Jordan Lewis and Bernie Vince mopping up around them the whole structure looks solid and sound. In the middle, Max Gawn continued his All-Australian form in the ruck, simply overwhelming Hickey, particularly around the ground, giving his mids first use of the ball time and time again. And well did they take advantage of it, as Angus Brayshaw put in a close to best on ground performance with 32 touches including 5 clearances and 10 contested possessions. However, the real BOG mantle had to go to Clayton Oliver with 36 touches, 20 … yes 20 contested possessions and 10 clearances. Nathan Jones chipped in with 26 touches, but probably couldn’t get his hands on the ball as much, simply because the other two kept on hogging it! IF Jack Viney returns to the group with this sort of form, the opposition truly have something to worry about. Up forward, we again saw the value of the return of Tom McDonald who kicked two goals straightening up the forward options, and releasing Jesse Hogan from the pressure of multiple defenders, resulting in him scoring three majors. T Mac's presence has also seen Sam Weideman continue to blossom, albeit slowly, and his two goals went a long way to building his confidence in his role in the side. The trust is that Tommy will always put in when needed and create a contest, which also means that the small forwards don’t have to fly for the ball, but rather can crumb when the ball comes to ground. The pity of the performance was not only that Melbourne restored some of that trust for the supporters and themselves, but that St Kilda was simply that bad. Their kicking for goal was simply atrocious and if they had kicked straight from easy set shots, the game would have been a lot, lot closer. The Saints only had 4 less scoring shots for the game but had little structure in the way they brought the ball forward, which played beautifully into the arms of Jake Lever and Oscar McDonald for the whole match. So while it became an easy win, the Saints were never able to capitalise on the unforced errors and turnovers that Alex Neal-Bullen and Don Tyson provided for them the whole game, Tyson topping the clanger list again this week. One of them will surely be relegated next week to fit in Viney (if he is ready), simply because their form has failed to rise in the past month. So some of the TRUST has now been restore. Some of it ... but now it is a MUST that the TRUST be even further bolstered against the Gold Coast Suns next week in Brisbane and looking further, to Carlton a week later. The Demons now sit outside the top eight on percentage and the teams above them all play another side in the top group of eleven next week. To put it another way, half the teams above them must lose some ground next week - a Melbourne win will put it back in the eight, possibly a game clear. The Suns are without May and Lynch and this sort of weakness would normally have seen Melbourne sides take it easy and lose some TRUST. Let’s see if there is more substance in this regard than what we have seen in the past. P.S. If there was a 25K crowd at Etihad today, I’ll eat my hat. Melbourne 5.1.31 8.6.54 13.10.88 16.10.106 St Kilda 2.5.17 3.8.26 7.10.52 9.13.67 Goals Melbourne Hogan 3 T McDonald Weideman 2 Brayshaw Gawn Harmes Jones Neal-Bullen Oliver Petracca Spargo Tyson St Kilda Armitage Long Membrey 2 Dunstan Gresham Hickey Best Melbourne Oliver Hogan Brayshaw Tyson Lewis Hibberd St Kilda Ross Webster Steven Newnes Injuries Melbourne Jetta (head) St Kilda McCartin (head) Gilbert (leg) Savage (ribs) Reports Nil Umpires Foot Fisher McInerney Official crowd 25,496 at Etihad Stadium

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