Greg Denham

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...5012432,00.html

...the Demons' biggest challenge may not come until rounds 18 to 20 when they have to play Sydney, the Bulldogs and Collingwood in just 12 days

Lets hope he's wrong about that too.

that would of made great reading pre season...

And it's not like he wrote that in Feb or early March. It was a day before the start of the end...that disappointing loss to the saints. How wrong everyone was...

All us diehard fans would have thought the same thing, I know I did.

It was a good article at the time and much of what most of us were thinking (or hoping).

Great midfield when he lists them - pity they haven't played together at any stage during the year.

We all got egg on our faces, i know i do, that is why apart from here and some fellow dees supporters, i dont talk about my support of the dees

We all got egg on our faces, i know i do, that is why apart from here and some fellow dees supporters, i dont talk about my support of the dees

really? i mean i know i have serious egg, but i don't think i wore as much dees stuff all year last year as i have this year. i find it boring to parade around after a win, but after a loss you've gotta show you're behind the boys

Please explain the purpose and benefits of this thread. I'd be really interested to know.

Or is it just another opportunity to put the boots in?

really? i mean i know i have serious egg, but i don't think i wore as much dees stuff all year last year as i have this year. i find it boring to parade around after a win, but after a loss you've gotta show you're behind the boys

Don't get me wrong i am still behind the boys, but i choose to show it in my way

Please explain the purpose and benefits of this thread. I'd be really interested to know.

Or is it just another opportunity to put the boots in?

What's the purpose or benefit of any thread in any forum?

The purpose is to discuss our current situation fan, which is obviously as dire as it could possibly be. If we weren't discussing the current issues then this place would be very quiet.

At the start of the year the MFC told us we were close to a premiership, even the writer of this article thought along the same lines, reflection on the past isn't such a bad thing, just let this thread follow it's natural course.

At least the contributors haven't accused fellow barrackers of not being a true supporter.

Greg Denham

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...5012432,00.html

The really sad part about that article is 95% of the Footy world agreed.

2007 has truely panned out as the season from Hell.

Lets fast forward to 2008

What's the purpose or benefit of any thread in any forum?

Yes you're probably right Jarka. I would have thought there are about 15 threads on the front page alone that give contributors a chance to sledge the club and highlight our situation and I'm wondering why there is a need to find other avenues to make the same point over and over again.

It's time for me to butt out and stop getting upset that people feel the need to vent their spleen on people they don't know and situations they don't fully understand and let nature take its vile course.

There is no doubt in my mind that "supporter" is the most misused word in footy.

It's time for me to butt out and stop getting upset that people feel the need to vent their spleen on people they don't know and situations they don't fully understand and let nature take its vile course.

There is no doubt in my mind that "supporter" is the most misused word in footy.

Fan, seriously, has this ever been any different in any kind of sport anywhere on the globe?

However, your post bears a remarkable resemblance to a pm that I sent you earlier this week, I suppose you now understand my frustration with that particular topic and as we both know neither of our concerns are going to change, are they?

It's time for me to butt out and stop getting upset that people feel the need to vent their spleen on people they don't know and situations they don't fully understand and let nature take its vile course.

There is no doubt in my mind that "supporter" is the most misused word in footy.

None of us know everything that goes on behind closed doors. Some of us know more than others, but in general, 99% of the discussion on these boards is speculative and is a matter of opinion.

I don't think that just because people are unhappy with our current position, and therefore feel the need to express their disappointment, that they are any less or any more of a supporter.

I doubt very much that anyone who didn't love the club and the team, would spend their time on this website.

The fact that some posters like yourself rather observe, than throw criticism, is what makes this place interesting.

But given that we are 0-8, after many supporters and indeed the club was working towards a top 4 finish, I think that we have seen a lot more reasonable, rational, calm discussion than I expected. It does get repetitive, yes, but you can hardly be surprised with the disappointment and heartbreak that everyone is feeling, and which I'm sure you share.

When you get 1000 Melbourne supporters in one place, you also get 7 million opinions and a lot of bitterness. But then, when you haven't won a premiership in over 40 years, what do you expect?

None of us know everything that goes on behind closed doors. Some of us know more than others, but in general, 99% of the discussion on these boards is speculative and is a matter of opinion.

Well said Jaded.

What's the purpose or benefit of any thread in any forum?

The purpose is to discuss our current situation fan, which is obviously as dire as it could possibly be.

This season's results are definitely depressing but the big picture is not dire, the new stadium deal has just been done (compare to North) and we still have a decent list (compare to Richmond).

At the start of the year the MFC told us we were close to a premiership.

No they didn't, the most they said and that anyone can ever say is that we were in a position to challenge for the premiership, there's a subtle but significant difference. No-one promised anyone a flag, ever, posters carry on here like they did. With luck we could have challenged for this year's premiership, as it is we've had nothing but bad luck.

With luck we could have challenged for this year's premiership, as it is we've had nothing but bad luck.

i think thats a very pertinent point old, i dont think at the start of the season any team could say that they are definite favourites for the premiership. while obviously one would point at the jaggurnaught that is west coast it only takes a couple of injuries to strike them down as well. if they lost judd, kerr, embly, lynch, staker, cox and glass do you think they would win the flag? probably not. they might not be 0-8 but they wouldnt be favourites or on top of the ladder.

the clubs are so even with the salary cap and the draft that the difference between the lists is marginal. even if it is 60 points or 150 points on the weekend the true difference between the list is the little things. injuries, form, confidence, rub of the luck are the things that decide who wins the premiership. someone wrote in another post about 'if the planets are aligned', well thats how it is for every team. if everything had of fit into place this year we would be in the top 8 at the moment. if we were playing like we were last year, but had petterd, jones and dunn come on like they have, godders tagging as tight as it has been, and juice knocking on the door at sandy we'd be laughing.

yes there are ways to fix this. confidence and motivation- could be coaching staff. psychologists?

injuries? preparation and management.

form? i've got no idea how to control form.

but things can be decided simply by a ball bouncing the wrong way, or an unfortunate umpiring decision that costs you the match. if the umpires didnt pay that free against neitz and we beat PA they would be 5-3, playing geelong this week and a chance to drop to the bottom of the 8 if they lose. not second place, having been in first place.

Dont you wish u could just go back in time to when this was all still a possibility?

I loved reading that article... no matter how inaccurate it is (in hindsight)

I read his article when it was published, agreed wholeheartedly with it and e-mailed the link to a few friends because I thought it hit the nail on the head. I'd have to crack an egg over my own scone before I threw one at Greg Denham.

This season's results are definitely depressing but the big picture is not dire, the new stadium deal has just been done (compare to North) and we still have a decent list (compare to Richmond).

I believe that the real 'dire' situation will be uncovered after the end of the season, and that's our financial position, I'm not sure if this club can survive if our members drop off because or poor performances.

I have the whole carton on my face.

I thought we'd be top 4 and wouldn't lose a game until we played WCE.

I have the whole carton on my face.

I thought we'd be top 4 and wouldn't lose a game until we played WCE.

Same. I was actually thinking, "We should be 7-0." It's the first time in the 20 years I've been alive that I've actually had enough confidence about the Melbourne Football Club to say they'd be 7-0. And yet, they disappointed yet again...they bring it down to an artform, as I've said before.