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17 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I’m an optimist like you Binman, but I can’t see us playing finals this year and that’s ok.

I was really impressed with how our young side took it up to the Lions, with some good games from our senior players. I was expecting a 4-5 goal loss, and after getting over the close loss I was proud of the effort.

I’d be interested to know the age differences between the two sides.

Fair points.

I think in the context of young players, its worth considering the impact of no salo or bowey.

Bowey is young, but up to rhe critical 50 game mark. And salo is obviously a well seasoned player.

Both were essentially replaced by inexperienced kids. 

In hindsight, I would have preferred laurie be the emergency as would have provided more flexibility and experience than pup, is physically stronger and has four AFL presasons under his belt to pups one.

What would have happened if pup had to dome on in say the first quarter?

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8 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

Our pressure ratings are also way down consistently these days. We rarely win the quarter for pressure and certainly rarely win the game for pressure.

Our team pressure rating in a fair percentage of matches is also below the AFL average (180).

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Round 16, 2024 Gabba - Lions vs Demons

Scoring Efficiency Lions Demons
Disposals Per Goal  33.4 30.7
% In50s Goal 20.8 21.6
Conversion % 35.5 42.3

 

Average Attributes

   
Brisbane Attribute  Melbourne
188.2cm  Height  187.3cm
86.5kg  Weight  86.7kg
26yr 3mth  Age  25yr 3mth
124.8 Games  105

 

Total Players By Games  
Brisbane  Games  Melbourne 
7 Less than 50  9
0 50 to 99  4
7 100 to 149  1
5 150 to 200  5
4 200 or more  4

Roo's best rating for the season and his best since Rnd 21, 2023 vs the Kangaroos where he posted a 3.20

9 effectives @ 64%, 3 contested marks, 3 one percenters, 2 clearances, 1 inside 50, 3 tackles, 7 score involvements, 2 intercepts, 192 meters gained, 2 goals and 3 turnovers.

Clarry the top rating for us on the night...

18 effectives @ 62%, 5 clearances (his average in 2023 approx 7), 2 rebounds, 3 inside 50s, 6 tackles (1 inside 50), 3 intercepts, 423 meters gaines, 1 goal and 5 turnovers.  Still a fair way off his 2023 average though.  Down by 15%.

Moniz a very solid debut...

11 effectives @ 69%, 1 one percenter, 2 rebounds, 2 clearances, 2 inside 50s, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 6 intercepts, 299 meters gained and 5 turnovers.

Kozzy's best rating this year also...

9 effectives @ 75%, 1 contested mark, 3 marks inside 50, 1 clearance, 5 inside 50s, 6 tackles (3 inside 50), 11 score involvements, 360 meters gaines, 5 goals & 1 miserly turnover.  His best rating since Rnd 7, 2023 vs the Kangas with a 4.27

            Player  Rating  Rank  2023      Season    Rating     %         Change  vs 2023
C Oliver   4.250     1   5.002   -15.0
K Pickett   4.175     2   2.101     98.7
Jack Viney   3.675     3   3.707    -0.9
Ed Langdon   3.300     4   3.057     7.9
A N-Bullen   3.250     5   2.532    28.4
H Petty < 74%   3.125     6   2.718    15.0
T McDonald   3.100     7   2.054    50.9
J V Rooyen   3.025     8   2.170    39.4
J McVee   2.725     9   2.320    17.5
J Lever   2.675    10   3.131   -14.6
T Rivers   2.650    11   3.696   -28.3
Max Gawn   2.525    12   3.350   -24.6
T Sparrow   2.500    13   2.811   -11.1
C Windsor   2.500    13       -       -
D Turner   2.275    15   1.825    24.7
A M-Wakefield   2.250    16       -       -
S May   2.175    17   3.213   -32.3
B Fritsch   2.100    18   2.324    -9.6
K Chandler   2.050    19   2.265    -9.5
T Woewodin   1.525    20   2.993   -49.0
K Tholstrup   1.500    21       -       -
A Tomlinson   1.350    22   2.912   -53.6
K Brown > 7%  -0.100    23       -       -
       Team Score   58.70     69.86   -16.0
           Top 6   21.78     24.43   -10.9
        Bottom 6   10.70     15.17   -29.5

 

Lions

Unfortunately a long way ahead of us on the night in all team rating metrics.

           Player  Rating  Rank
J Dunkley   5.850      1
D Zorko   5.350      2
L Neale   5.075      3
R Lester   4.825      4
H McCluggage   3.750      5
B Starcevich   3.700      6
H Andrews   3.525      7
B Reville   3.425      8
D Wilmot   3.400      9
W Ashcroft   3.175    10
J Berry   3.000    11
K Lohmann   2.750    12
E Hipwood   2.650    13
C Rayner   2.575    14
C McKenna   2.225    15
O McInerney   2.000    16
J Daniher   1.875    17
C Ah Chee   1.650    18
D Joyce   1.425    19
C Cameron   1.375    20
J Fletcher < 30%   0.900    21
Zac Bailey   0.600    22
L Morris > 43%   0.200    23
        Team Score   65.10  
             Top 6   28.55  
          Bottom 6    7.83  

 

Combined Ratings

            Player  Rating  Rank
J Dunkley   5.850      1
D Zorko   5.350      2
L Neale   5.075      3
R Lester   4.825      4
C Oliver   4.250      5
K Pickett   4.175      6
H McCluggage   3.750      7
B Starcevich   3.700      8
Jack Viney   3.675      9
H Andrews   3.525    10
B Reville   3.425    11
D Wilmot   3.400    12
Ed Langdon   3.300    13
A N-Bullen   3.250    14
W Ashcroft   3.175    15
H Petty < 74%   3.125    16
T McDonald   3.100    17
J V Rooyen   3.025    18
J Berry   3.000    19
K Lohmann   2.750    20
J McVee   2.725    21
J Lever   2.675    22
E Hipwood   2.650    23
T Rivers   2.650    23
C Rayner   2.575    25
Max Gawn   2.525    26
T Sparrow   2.500    27
C Windsor   2.500    27
D Turner   2.275    29
A M-Wakefield   2.250    30
C McKenna   2.225    31
S May   2.175    32
B Fritsch   2.100    33
K Chandler   2.050    34
O McInerney   2.000    35
J Daniher   1.875    36
C Ah Chee   1.650    37
T Woewodin   1.525    38
K Tholstrup   1.500    39
D Joyce   1.425    40
C Cameron   1.375    41
A Tomlinson   1.350    42
J Fletcher < 30%   0.900    43
Zac Bailey   0.600    44
L Morris > 43%   0.200    45
K Brown > 7%  -0.100    46

< Subbed out TOG %

> Subbed in TOG %

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Thanks DD the Stats bare out the fact that their best were significantly better than our best for longer, it also supports that we had a more even spread across our playing group and our youngsters dropped off in the last.

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4 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Thanks DD the Stats bare out the fact that their best were significantly better than our best for longer, it also supports that we had a more even spread across our playing group and our youngsters dropped off in the last.

Yes we also had nearly double the number of less experienced / rookie players in the sub 100 game category DZ...

Demons 13 vs Lions 7

We are effectively already into the early stages of a mini rebuild and probably another two pre-seasons before bringing in the right talent, building up a few of the existing ones (Windsor, Jeffo, possibly Kentfield, Brown dog & Sesto) that will see some sort of turnaround.

A recovery of sorts possibly well into 2026 and beyond it seems.

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Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 16, 2024 vs H&A Season 2023

Clarry leapfrogs Maysie into 3rd place, with Tommo dropping 4 places after a very poor showing up at the Gabba.

Player 2024 Rating 2024 Rank 2023 Rating % Change vs 2023 2023 Rank Change in Rank vs 2023
C Petracca 4.476 1 4.707 -4.9 2 1
Max Gawn 4.150 2 3.350 23.9 7 5
C Oliver 3.655 3 5.002 -26.9 1 -2
Steven May 3.623 4 3.213 12.8 8 4
Jake Lever < 3.403 5 3.131 8.7 9 4
C Salem < 3.365 6 2.993 12.4 12 6
T Rivers 3.330 7 3.696 -9.9 5 -2
Jack Viney 3.327 8 3.707 -10.3 4 -4
Ed Langdon 3.013 9 3.057 -1.4 10 1
A N-Bullen 3.000 10 2.532 18.5 20 10
T McDonald 2.970 11 2.054 44.6 27 16
A Tomlinson 2.915 12 2.915 0.0 14 2
Judd McVee 2.902 13 2.320 25.1 22 9
J Bowey < 2.602 14 2.820 -7.7 15 1
K Pickett 2.535 15 2.101 20.7 26 11
T Sparrow 2.492 16 2.811 -11.3 16 0
T Woewodin < > 2.388 17 1.406 69.8 34 17
B Howes 2.348 18 - - - -
M Hore 2.273 19 - - - -
A M-Wakefield* 2.250 20 - - - -
J Billings > < 2.202 21 - - - -
C Windsor < 2.135 22 - - - -
K Chandler 2.080 23 2.265 -8.2 23 0
J V Rooyen 2.073 24 2.170 -4.5 25 1
L Hunter* < 1.838 25 2.939 -37.5 13 -12
B Fritsch 1.800 26 2.324 -22.5 21 -5
B Laurie* < > 1.605 27 2.235 -28.2 24 -3
K Tholstrup 1.517 28 - - - -
S McAdam* 1.483 29 - - - -
Ben Brown < 1.391 30 1.941 -28.3 28 -2
D Turner 1.364 31 1.825 -25.3 31 0
H Petty < 1.311 32 2.718 -51.8 19 -13
C Spargo* 1.200 33 1.886 -36.4 29 -4
J Schache* 0.700 34 1.525 -54.1 33 -1
K Brown* > 0.125 35 - - - -
Team Rating 65.35   69.86 -6.5    
Top 6 22.67   24.43 -7.2    
Bottom 6 13.60   15.17 -10.4    

* Played less than two full matches (in total)

< Subbed out at least once or more (player rating could be somewhat comprised)

> Subbed in at least once or more (player rating could be somewhat comprised)

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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