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Just listening to Track on 360 it just seems as though him/the players are not hungry/disappointed & continues to say it’s a learning opportunity.. I wonder if he /they know the premiership window is slowly closing??

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1 minute ago, Demonsone said:

Just listening to Track on 360 it just seems as though him/the players are not hungry/disappointed & continues to say it’s a learning opportunity.. I wonder if/they know the premiership window is slowly???

There is another thread on this. 

The reason there is so much of the language around 'learning opportunities' - is due to to the education of coaches and players - who often refer back to Carol Dweck  https://www.mindsetworks.com/science/ - and 'Growth Mindset' - - it's endemic within the AFL industry.

What I know from direct experience is that whilst the coaches and players talk it ie: 'learning opportunities' its not always the lived experience of athletes.. there is a lot of growth (or learning opportunities if you will) to still occur on how to implement it within a ecosystem such as an AFL club.

Anyway...

What we do know however is, that the hunger and disappointment that you talk about, is not a sustainable way to relate (as an athlete and coach) to the weekly wins and losses that occur to get the best out of ourselves. It's exhausting, and depletes us both physiologically and psychologically - so that'd be the cortisol and the adrenal responses... which actually take you away from being able to perform at your optimum.

Don't confuse the language around learning opportunities as 'not caring'.

The athletes care far more than you or I do as a supporter - as they are under exhausting scrutiny weekly.

Hope that helps provide some clarity.

  • Demonland changed the title to Trac on afl 360

Growth Mindset is not new, but  because it accepts that the brain can change its profile through learning experiences  Did it happen to Richmond, Brisbane in the early Millenium ??  

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Who knows pickett- I was referencing the language used by CP5 and why it’s used and why it’s important to not interpret it as not caring….

Edited by Engorged Onion

These guys live footy 24/7. If they ain’t playing they’re training, if they ain’t training they’re recovering, if they ain’t recovering, they’re in meetings about footy.

can’t blame them for not being passionate all the time. 


2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Growth Mindset is not new, but  because it accepts that the brain can change its profile through learning experiences  Did it happen to Richmond, Brisbane in the early Millenium ??  

I’m not 100% certain what you are asking here but Richmond credit a significant part of the 2017 turn around to their mindfulness coach Emma Murray. She talks strongly about working with the players about changing their mindset.

14 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

These guys live footy 24/7. If they ain’t playing they’re training, if they ain’t training they’re recovering, if they ain’t recovering, they’re in meetings about footy.

can’t blame them for not being passionate all the time. 

There is a massive disconnect from how supporters believe a player should be totally invested all the time through the football season, versus their own lived experience of how they themselves relate to their work week, colleagues and content of work.

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