9 hours ago, Demonland said:

I take your point. I was going to do a separate AFLW Grand Final podcast but I was just post op for my shoulder surgery at the time. 

 Whilst not the reason for talking about the AFLW Grand Final at the end on this podcast the live listener stats each week drop as soon as we start talking about the AFLW. This fact does not deter me from discussing AFLW.

During the Live show the other night we had about 50 to 70 live listeners throughout and during the time that we were talking AFLW it dropped into the teens.

I have the LIVE listeners stats open whilst we are broadcasting live and this dramatic drop off in listeners is a weekly occurrence when we start talking about AFLW. To be clear this lack of interest whilst disheartening does not dissuade me from covering AFLW on the podcast or helping to promote the game in any way that I can. I recognise that the more that we cover the game and give it exposure the more interest that there will be.

I have no such stats to draw on from the downloaded/streamed shows once they are uploaded as listeners drop off stats aren’t provided.

Engagement on Demonland’s various social media pages is also quite low for any AFLW content we posts (with the exception of the Premiership winning post after the Grand Final). Whilst I understand that mens content engagement is going to trump the womens, the gulf at the moment is huge.

We should promote the game more and give it equal billing but I don’t think Demonland as a website can be accused of ignoring the women’s games. We post a match preview & report prominently each week and there is discussion of the games and any news. 

One of our first interviews on the podcast was with Mel Hickey. This was organized directly through Mel. At another time I  requested an interview with an AFLW player through the club and I didn’t receive a response back and haven’t actively tried again. 

I hope to promote the women’s game on Demonland and the podcast more in the future and do appreciate the feedback. 

Thanks Demonland for an excellent Podcast. One of the best I have ever listened to.

21 hours ago, Demonland said:

I take your point. I was going to do a separate AFLW Grand Final podcast but I was just post op for my shoulder surgery at the time. 

 Whilst not the reason for talking about the AFLW Grand Final at the end on this podcast the live listener stats each week drop as soon as we start talking about the AFLW. This fact does not deter me from discussing AFLW.

During the Live show the other night we had about 50 to 70 live listeners throughout and during the time that we were talking AFLW it dropped into the teens.

I have the LIVE listeners stats open whilst we are broadcasting live and this dramatic drop off in listeners is a weekly occurrence when we start talking about AFLW. To be clear this lack of interest whilst disheartening does not dissuade me from covering AFLW on the podcast or helping to promote the game in any way that I can. I recognise that the more that we cover the game and give it exposure the more interest that there will be.

I have no such stats to draw on from the downloaded/streamed shows once they are uploaded as listeners drop off stats aren’t provided.

Engagement on Demonland’s various social media pages is also quite low for any AFLW content we posts (with the exception of the Premiership winning post after the Grand Final). Whilst I understand that mens content engagement is going to trump the womens, the gulf at the moment is huge.

We should promote the game more and give it equal billing but I don’t think Demonland as a website can be accused of ignoring the women’s games. We post a match preview & report prominently each week and there is discussion of the games and any news. 

One of our first interviews on the podcast was with Mel Hickey. This was organized directly through Mel. At another time I  requested an interview with an AFLW player through the club and I didn’t receive a response back and haven’t actively tried again. 

I hope to promote the women’s game on Demonland and the podcast more in the future and do appreciate the feedback. 

Appreciate your efforts DL, and that it’s a fine balance to walk when you’re trying to maximise engagement/listenership of your men’s content. I agree that keeping on giving it space is the way to go. There’ll always be people who disagree one way or the other, but I like to think things will ever-so-gradually trend a certain way. It increasingly sounds like you guys have plenty to say about it (and surely all listeners can get on board umpire complaints!). Plus, a lot of the amateur AFLW media I hear is from people who comment on AFLW only, in a league-wide sense, so it’s good to have the Demon perspective from a slightly different angle out there.

And if you’re looking for a chaotic interview, maybe try for Maeve Chaplin next season haha! Hopefully with a break after the two seasons in a year, players might be more available—I did hear a few on various fan podcasts in the lead-in to finals, so fingers crossed.

13 minutes ago, Dees_In_October said:

Appreciate your efforts DL, and that it’s a fine balance to walk when you’re trying to maximise engagement/listenership of your men’s content. I agree that keeping on giving it space is the way to go. There’ll always be people who disagree one way or the other, but I like to think things will ever-so-gradually trend a certain way. It increasingly sounds like you guys have plenty to say about it (and surely all listeners can get on board umpire complaints!). Plus, a lot of the amateur AFLW media I hear is from people who comment on AFLW only, in a league-wide sense, so it’s good to have the Demon perspective from a slightly different angle out there.

 

And if you’re looking for a chaotic interview, maybe try for Maeve Chaplin next season haha! Hopefully with a break after the two seasons in a year, players might be more available—I did hear a few on various fan podcasts in the lead-in to finals, so fingers crossed.

We sponsor Paxy so we should try and get her on.

Amongst lots of other things, I'd be really interested in her take on the tactical differences she sees between the men's and women's game

2 minutes ago, binman said:

We sponsor Paxy so we should try and get her on.

Amongst lots of other things, I'd be really interested in her take on the tactical differences she sees between the men's and women's game

For sure, although she mightn't be the best players to ask, as I seem to remember that she pretty much never watches men's footy. That might be outdated info from the early seasons though. I'm sure she'd offer plenty regardless - she'd be especially well placed to comment on the evolution from Darebin days to now, in her own game and the game style as a whole.

Also, you can implore her to keep the lucky bandage!

What a great interview. Best one to date. Very informative. Thanks heaps. Listened to it 3 times already and probably another couple of times before new year.

JT is the ultimate professional recruiter.

Can't get enough of this stuff pre season.

1 hour ago, manny100 said:

What a great interview. Best one to date. Very informative. Thanks heaps. Listened to it 3 times already and probably another couple of times before new year.

JT is the ultimate professional recruiter.

Can't get enough of this stuff pre season.

Thank you 🙏

Listening back again to this quality pod and speculating about the software JT mentioned. Wondering, given the depletion of scouts due to soft cap squeezes, how many clubs have access to purchase this same footage and whether cost is a way around the cap 

On 12/11/2022 at 6:11 PM, Demonland said:

I take your point. I was going to do a separate AFLW Grand Final podcast but I was just post op for my shoulder surgery at the time. 

 Whilst not the reason for talking about the AFLW Grand Final at the end on this podcast the live listener stats each week drop as soon as we start talking about the AFLW. This fact does not deter me from discussing AFLW.

During the Live show the other night we had about 50 to 70 live listeners throughout and during the time that we were talking AFLW it dropped into the teens.

The counter argument of course is that if you put the JT interview at the end of the podcast perhaps people would listen right through, but I understand why you may not want to test this, and I don't understand the economics of the situation.

AFLW was a hard watch in season 1 but now it's a very good standard, especially between the top teams.  The GF was a ripper, those who didn't watch it because "it's women" just shortchanged themselves.  It was a very exciting and emotional win.  The women seem to have such a wonderful bond, it's pretty touching.

Anyway, thanks for the explanation, the podcast is a credit to those who participate.