43 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

For the record, Oliver is not Thriving, Gus is treading water and Harmes has always had good skills, Take your ridiculous else where.

Wow, 3rd in the Brownlow after almost losing your career to concussion is treading water! interesting.

21 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Thank God, i would much rather converse with people on here that are not just trying to point score and have a fight for the sake of it. 

Go Dees.

haha

said the troll

4 hours ago, Demon3 said:

There is absolutely no reason though to lie about it.. why would you say we didn't review it if we did review it.. 

Its truly bizarre and the club has been nothing more than a mess since the PF loss.

 

2 hours ago, binman said:

There are any number of reasons why they might publically say they didn't review that game when in fact they had. And much nuance in rhe statement the club did not review it.

Apply some intelligence and thought to it and you will work out what those reasons might be and what the nuances might be.

Even if there was no reason to lie about it, it's possible that it was said without thinking but once said Goodwin might have felt he then couldn't change his story. 

3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Can you back up these claims?

Well his kicking........ fail.

His bulk and fitness...... fail

His workrate.  better than 1st couple of 2019 games...  still a fail.

....  being pedantic doesn't suit you,   'LH'. 

 

So your happy with how  Christian's Traccing,  then.?

3 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Well his kicking........ fail.

His bulk and fitness...... fail

His workrate.  better than 1st couple of 2019 games...  still a fail.

....  being pedantic doesn't suit you,   'LH'. 

 

So your happy with how  Christian's Traccing,  then.?

Not being pedantic DV8, just weary of generalisations to whip players so am now looking for real info/facts.

I'm not happy with how most of the players or the team are tracking this year but that doesn't mean I am going to whip players or unfairly target one or two. 

5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Not being pedantic DV8, just weary of generalisations to whip players so am now looking for real info/facts.

I'm not happy with how most of the players or the team are tracking this year but that doesn't mean I am going to whip players or unfairly target one or two. 

target them.?  or drive them forward.?

Edited May 21, 20196 yr by DV8

8 hours ago, DV8 said:

target them.?  or drive them forward.?

I don't think anything said on Demonland will drive a player forward. However, if you mean that the coaches should push the players harder as stated in Demonland, you might have a point. But it's actually much more nuanced than that. Every player is different and professional coaches need to know what works to get the best out of each player.

For example, Mick Malthouse was known to drive his players hard and move out of the club any player who didn't bend to his expectations. Look where that left Carlton. On the other hand, Brendan Bolton is presented as a coach who takes a modern school teacher approach. And look where that's left Carlton. In other words, every player is different and there isn't one guaranteed approach which will work in every circumstance.

 

12 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I don't think anything said on Demonland will drive a player forward.

It's plainly obvious I disagree with this,  'LDvC'.

Thats why I do it.

 

Sometimes players get quite comfortable,  in the knowledge they are feeling the love of supporters (perceptions)...  but quite possibly the comfortable player is under-performing,  yet feel in themselves,  that they are doing well.

Many get ahead of themselves,  in thoughts,  they are better than what they're delivering...  especially kids that have been taught they can do no wrong.  the apple of their private mentors eyes.

 

These same types leave  a lot left behind, (left in the tank)....   Watts his face,  comes immediately to mind.

Pulling the rug from under these types,  needs to be done to improve the reality.   And the sooner it happens, the better the result. 

Because false praise,  builds layer on layer in their minds... hallting their development.

 

In a way,  this is closely linked to why  Mfc  has a very high fail-rate in our past,  with top level draft recruits. 

We either go one way or the other.... with players of high expectations.   We put then on a pedestal...  or we Harass them negatively,  from the get-go..   Neither of these methods are balanced.

The kids should be placed under some pressure from their coach,  from the start.   And they also should have support within the club,  from team manager and others within the club... who can counsel them around their footy, and life situations.

 

The Kids should do their time at the start... in relative anonymity... and without any  Fan-Fare.

The worst we can do...  is pump them up like a  Good-Year  blimp.

 

They should be left to develop in the quiet of early-morning games,  where few  'off-field'  are watching them.  and reporting on them.  This is what we have Lost,  with no Club U-19's competitions, any longer.