A Day at the Races

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

3 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Gator likes Invincible Al........holding steady at 3.70..

And that’ll be it for me Wadda. Once I see the dishlickers commence I’m out of here. 

Been lots of fun again guys. 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Whoooo Hooooo................

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Just now, Wadda We Sing said:

Whoooo Hooooo................

Nice one Wadda...funny how my BB was the only one to miss.....ah those odds of $114.

[Macca 16,903]

6 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Gator likes Invincible Al........holding steady at 3.70..

Nice pick Wadda (and Gator) - thanks!  Bonus bets at work again.

Well,  we went 2 from 3 today and I was betting with house money with the win bets on our picks. 

Terrific acceleration by the horse too - it's got some real speed. 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

4 minutes ago, Macca said:

Nice pick Wadda (and Gator) - thanks!  Bonus bets at work again.

Well,  we went 2 from 3 today and I was betting with house money with the win bets on our picks. 

Terrific acceleration by the horse too - it's got some real speed. 

Ill admit i was worried about the kid on board, but he got his first win at Flemington now, so there you go......

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

I took Sixties Groove and Invincible Al into the Dees @ the line of +11.5 for a return of around 250.....so lets go Demons!!

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Demons are out to 2.75 and Geelong 1.48......seems a little one sided....

Edited July 21, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

5 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

I took Sixties Groove and Invincible Al into the Dees @ the line of +11.5 for a return of around 250.....so lets go Demons!!

Well i got the multi but id gladly give it back for the 4 points.....what a surreal game. Going to my local for several beers. Shaking badly.

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

On 7/20/2018 at 9:29 PM, Macca said:

And next Monday at Rosehill we'll see a star-studded trial featuring Winx,  Chautauqua and a whole host of other topliners

Chautauqua fails to jump again. I think the horse took one look, saw Winx and realised how this was going to end, hence “ Nah, I’ll stay in the barriers thanks”. ?

https://www.racing.com/news/2018-07-23/chautauqua-fails-to-jump-again

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

1 hour ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Chautauqua fails to jump again. I think the horse took one look, saw Winx and realised how this was going to end, hence “ Nah, I’ll stay in the barriers thanks”. ?

https://www.racing.com/news/2018-07-23/chautauqua-fails-to-jump-again

I just saw that on my computer dispatches. Who in their right mind would take on WinX first thing in the morning.

[Macca 16,903]

2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Chautauqua fails to jump again. I think the horse took one look, saw Winx and realised how this was going to end, hence “ Nah, I’ll stay in the barriers thanks”. ?

https://www.racing.com/news/2018-07-23/chautauqua-fails-to-jump-again

Devastating news DZ ... I hope they give the horse another chance to jump although the chances of that happening aren't great.  Such a shame but I suppose the horse is telling us it just doesn't want to race again. 

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

8 hours ago, Macca said:

Devastating news DZ ... I hope they give the horse another chance to jump although the chances of that happening aren't great.  Such a shame but I suppose the horse is telling us it just doesn't want to race again. 

It’s a real shame Macca. The horse possesses one of the most devastating sprints I have ever seen on a racetrack. You never know though, they might try again with him.

Such a unique situation in a way, I can’t recall a previous top line galloper being retired  from a refusal to jump in trials. 

[Macca 16,903]

2 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

It’s a real shame Macca. The horse possesses one of the most devastating sprints I have ever seen on a racetrack. You never know though, they might try again with him.

Such a unique situation in a way, I can’t recall a previous top line galloper being retired  from a refusal to jump in trials. 

I hope they just persevere with barrier trials until it's obvious that the horse isn't interested ... it's not like Chautauqua has refused to jump on 10-15 occasions.   It's a gelding so the connections have got nothing to lose. 

Apart from anything else it's one hell of an intriguing conundrum DZ and if they retire the horse there will always be that 'what-if' question surrounding the horse. 

Oddly enough I've never backed the horse (for some unknown reason) so I'm not talking through my hip-pocket.  Or maybe I am in terms of the future ha ha ... if it ever races again I'm getting on!

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

5 minutes ago, Macca said:

I hope they just persevere with barrier trials until it's obvious that the horse isn't interested ... it's not like Chautauqua has refused to jump on 10-15 occasions.   It's a gelding so the connections have got nothing to lose. 

Apart from anything else it's one hell of an intriguing conundrum DZ and if they retire the horse there will always be that 'what-if' question surrounding the horse. 

Oddly enough I've never backed the horse (for some unknown reason) so I'm not talking through my hip-pocket.  Or maybe I am in terms of the future ha ha ... if it ever races again I'm getting on!

Haha, I’ll be backing him as well Macca. I’ve had a couple of flutters on him in the past, not when he’s won of course. ?

In other news, El Magnificence has accepted this Wednesday at Sandown. Race 5. It’s got the Dan Zephyr syndrome, drawing barrier 16 of 16. The race is over 1000m, back in distance will probably suit the horse.  Bet365 markets currently have the horse at $13.

[Macca 16,903]

20 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Haha, I’ll be backing him as well Macca. I’ve had a couple of flutters on him in the past, not when he’s won of course. ?

In other news, El Magnificence has accepted this Wednesday at Sandown. Race 5. It’s got the Dan Zephyr syndrome, drawing barrier 16 of 16. The race is over 1000m, back in distance will probably suit the horse.  Bet365 markets currently have the horse at $13.

Well there's only the one turn at Sandown over the 1000m and from the barriers there's a 500m straight run to that turn ... as you can see from the image below the turn isn't a sharp one either.  It's got a fair amount of good early speed so it should be able to get into a good position with a bit of luck. 

The top 3 fancies in the race have got some reasonably decent form but none of them are Nature-Strip like or even Gold-Mag like.   It's a chance.

By the way,  the winner broke 34 seconds for the last 600 on a Soft5 in El's last race at Sandown. 

Edited July 23, 2018 by Macca

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Thanks for that @Macca I can see it mapping out that way. Great preview....move over Gator.

I had no idea about Gold Mag’s last 600m and i went to the track. That’s one serious quick sectional on the soft. Connections will be finding it hard to curb their excitement about the horse’s future.

Edited July 23, 2018 by Dee Zephyr

[Macca 16,903]

3 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Thanks for that @Macca I can see it mapping out that way. Great preview....move over Gator.

I had no idea about Gold Mag’s last 600m and i went to the track. That’s one serious quick sectional on the soft. Connections will be finding it hard to curb their excitement about the horse’s future.

Racenet.com has a results section where the times and last 600 are available the next day ... the data goes back 12 months which is a handy aid. 

As for the El-Mag race,  if one could figure out the right trifecta or F4 combination,  there's some money to be made.  There's about 5 or 6 winning chances and up to a dozen horses could run a place!

$4.30 the place with a little on for the win might be the go?

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

Racenet.com has a results section where the times and last 600 are available the next day ... the data goes back 12 months which is a handy aid. 

As for the El-Mag race,  if one could figure out the right trifecta or F4 combination,  there's some money to be made.  There's about 5 or 6 winning chances and up to a dozen horses could run a place!

$4.30 the place with a little on for the win might be the go?

Terrific place value at the moment. I was thinking the same bet Macca. 

If he can get the front without too much work from the wide draw he could be hard to toss from the placings over the 1000m. 

I will put a call through to mate tomorrow and post any updates tomorrow night or Wednesday morning the latest.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Great info guys, ill be on board. Good luck.

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Spoke to mate a short time ago. 

Plan is to get the horse behind the leaders and take a sit behind them and let him go at the furlong. They will certainly need some luck to get to the desired position from a wide barrier.

Horse had a jump out last week with a barrier blanket and the blinkers in an attempt to make him jump better. He’s been sprawling a tad out of the gates recently. He didn’t jump all that well but worked home well through horses. I believe blinkers will be on for the first time and hopefully it works out like it did for the Zephyr. 

The track could suit the outside horses later in the day or it may not. Hard to gauge how a track will play out. If the horse does get stuck 3 wide hopefully he can get some cover during the run. 

Good luck all if you have a wager. 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

32 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Spoke to mate a short time ago. 

Plan is to get the horse behind the leaders and take a sit behind them and let him go at the furlong. They will certainly need some luck to get to the desired position from a wide barrier.

Horse had a jump out last week with a barrier blanket and the blinkers in an attempt to make him jump better. He’s been sprawling a tad out of the gates recently. He didn’t jump all that well but worked home well through horses. I believe blinkers will be on for the first time and hopefully it works out like it did for the Zephyr. 

The track could suit the outside horses later in the day or it may not. Hard to gauge how a track will play out. If the horse does get stuck 3 wide hopefully he can get some cover during the run.  

Good luck all if you have a wager. 

Thats a pretty good unbiased report. Thanks DZ. Heres hopin!

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

2 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Thats a pretty good unbiased report. Thanks DZ. Heres hopin!

Great finish, fought on well. I won a bit on the place bet getting in early at 4.20.

There was a huge plunge and he started at 5.50 and 2.10

Was nominated pick of the mounting yard and they put it on top, in the pre race picks on Racing.com

Missed the trifecta, didnt have the 8.

Edited July 25, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

33 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Great finish, fought on well. I won a bit on the place bet getting in early at 4.20.

There was a huge plunge and he started at 5.50 and 2.10

Was nominated pick of the mounting yard and they put it on top, in the pre race picks on Racing.com

Missed the trifecta, didnt have the 8.

I missed the boat with the good place dividend Wadda. I saw $16 and $5 on TAB this morning and didn’t take it. Thought I’d wait. That was one decent plunge late.( It wasn’t me)

I thought it was a very good run considering he was trapped the widest for the majority. Couldn’t get a decent spot. I’m not suggesting the horse would have won but it would have finished a lot closer.

Anyways, on to Saturday fellas.

[Macca 16,903]

I got the 4.20 for the place on offer on Monday but the money did come for El late ...ran on well considering if was pushed quite wide by the horses inside it nearing the turn.  Just didn't quite have the pace to go with Illumicon from the jump. 

It will run in easier BM64's but I'm not sure how that whole benchmark system works ... does a 3rd placing push up a horses rating by much @Dee Zephyr  @Wadda We Sing  ?

Anyway,  any time you can more than triple your outlay is a good result from a punting perspective.  By my reckoning they ran a very handy time for the 1000m on a Soft6 too - around 58 seconds flat or thereabouts.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

1 hour ago, Macca said:

I got the 4.20 for the place on offer on Monday but the money did come for El late ...ran on well considering if was pushed quite wide by the horses inside it nearing the turn.  Just didn't quite have the pace to go with Illumicon from the jump. 

It will run in easier BM64's but I'm not sure how that whole benchmark system works ... does a 3rd placing push up a horses rating by much @Dee Zephyr  @Wadda We Sing  ?

Anyway,  any time you can more than triple your outlay is a good result from a punting perspective.  By my reckoning they ran a very handy time for the 1000m on a Soft6 too - around 58 seconds flat or thereabouts.

Yes its beyond me Macca, no idea really. If its anything like the old system im pretty sure you have to win to go up in grade.