A Day at the Races

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Best Bet: Rosehill R9 No.5 Osborne Bulls.

Currently a $3 chance with TAB.

Finished off really well last start after being luckless for most part of the straight and should be too good for this lot.

Edit: Ken’s Dream is terrific value at $6 in Race 8 at Caulfield. If they are running on, it could be worth a few bucks. 

Edited March 29, 2018 by Demon77

[Macca 16,903]

6 hours ago, Demon77 said:

Best Bet: Rosehill R9 No.5 Osborne Bulls.

Currently a $3 chance with TAB.

Finished off really well last start after being luckless for most part of the straight and should be too good for this lot.

Edit: Ken’s Dream is terrific value at $6 in Race 8 at Caulfield. If they are running on, it could be worth a few bucks. 

Yeah I like Osborne Bulls as well D77 ... the horse is looking for the 1400m too.  I'll be including Ken's Dream in a trifecta as well - thanks for the heads up. 

There are some wide-open races at Rosehill tomorrow - especially the Vinery Stud Stakes & to a lesser extent the Emancipation Stakes.  The Easter Cup at Caulfield is a good betting race as well ... I like those sort of fields being a trifecta punter. 

They are racing at Oakbank instead of Morphettville tomorrow but I'll be following JJ's tips with interest ... I've figured out a way to use his tips in trifectas by taking his first 2 tips to win (as a base of a 2-4-6 trifecta)

[Macca 16,903]

Just a note on the Internationals ... there are no fewer than 7 of 9 in the Group 1 Tancred Stakes to be run tomorrow.  I suppose being a $2Million race it's no surprise. 

2 from France and 1 each from the UK,  Ireland,  Germany,  Japan & New Zealand.  The scratching (Libran) is also from Ireland so it could have been 8 from 10. 

Most or all will probably run against Winx in the $4Million Queen Elizabeth Stakes on the 14th of April. 

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Dan Zephyr is running in the last at Caulfield today. I had no idea until I went through the fields again. Can’t see him winning or even placing to be honest. Change of trainer in the last few months but I see they stuck with their favourite jockey. 

Good luck to the old boy!

[Diamond_Jim 12,526]

11 hours ago, Macca said:

Just a note on the Internationals ... there are no fewer than 7 of 9 in the Group 1 Tancred Stakes to be run tomorrow.  I suppose being a $2Million race it's no surprise. 

2 from France and 1 each from the UK,  Ireland,  Germany,  Japan & New Zealand.  The scratching (Libran) is also from Ireland so it could have been 8 from 10. 

Most or all will probably run against Winx in the $4Million Queen Elizabeth Stakes on the 14th of April. 

Macca

when you say Internationals do you mean owned from overseas or simply bred overseas.

Not sure but it seems that we don't see as many of the visiting internationals any more. Strange given the ease of transport but I suppose it's the old quarantine problem.

Good luck to the Demon Zephyr !

[Macca 16,903]

48 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Macca

when you say Internationals do you mean owned from overseas or simply bred overseas.

Not sure but it seems that we don't see as many of the visiting internationals any more. Strange given the ease of transport but I suppose it's the old quarantine problem.

Good luck to the Demon Zephyr !

To be honest I don't know for sure DJ ... for instance,  if there is a "Ire" next to the horses name do we assume that the horse was bred overseas?  I would have thought yes but it's a good question. 

Gailo Chop was bred overseas and raced in Europe for its first 12 races ... so there's one.  Almandin is another as well as Harlem.  These horses have been here for a fair time now so we may be assuming that they are not from overseas. 

I reckon all the overseas horses currently racing here have slipped under the guard.  The fanfare with regards to overseas 'invaders' usually surrounds the Melbourne Cup. 

As previously stated,  I welcome the interest from overseas for a number of reasons.  The owners & trainers here might disagree but it should also be noted that the overseas horses are often placed in the hands of the local trainers.  

 

Edited March 31, 2018 by Macca

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Macca

when you say Internationals do you mean owned from overseas or simply bred overseas.

Not sure but it seems that we don't see as many of the visiting internationals any more. Strange given the ease of transport but I suppose it's the old quarantine problem.

Good luck to the Demon Zephyr !

 

23 minutes ago, Macca said:

To be honest I don't know for sure DJ ... for instance,  if there is a "Ire" next to the horses name do we assume that the horse was bred overseas?  I would have thought yes but it's a good question. 

Gailo Chop was bred overseas and raced in Europe for its first 12 races ... so there's one.  Almandin is another as well as Harlem.  These horses have been here for a fair time now so we may be assuming that they are not from overseas. 

I reckon all the overseas horses currently racing here have slipped under the guard.  The fanfare with regards to overseas 'invaders' usually surrounds the Melbourne Cup. 

As previously stated,  I welcome the interest from overseas for a number of reasons.  The owners & trainers here might disagree but it should also be noted that the overseas horses are often placed in the hands of the local trainers.  

 

It usually means bred overseas. Going back about 10-20 years Australia/NZ bred top stayers but the lack of decent staying races in conjunction with the amount of time it took from foal to ready for racing was too long. 

People want quick returns, hence owners investing in two year olds because they can race when they are two years of age.

Some of the top trainer/owners would invest in overseas stayers and bring them to race here as ready made gallopers, i.e Waterhouse with Fiorente. 

Thats my understing anyway fellas.

Edit: Overseas trainers were bringing quality stayers to race here in the Melbourne Cup especially in the last 5-10 years as Macca stated above. Aussie trainers took a backstep and it was almost a case of, if you can’t beat them, join them.

Edited March 31, 2018 by Demon77

[Macca 16,903]

21 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

 

It usually means bred overseas. Going back about 10-20 years Australia/NZ bred top stayers but the lack of decent staying races in conjunction with the amount of time it took from foal to ready for racing was too long. 

People want quick returns, hence owners investing in two year olds because they can race when they are two years of age.

Some of the top trainer/owners would invest in overseas stayers and bring them to race here as ready made gallopers, i.e Waterhouse with Fiorente. 

Thats my understing anyway fellas.

Edit: Overseas trainers were bringing quality stayers to race here in the Melbourne Cup especially in the last 5-10 years as Macca stated above. Aussie trainers took a backstep and it was almost a case of, if you can’t beat them, join them.

The Quarantine laws have been relaxed too - the following article (below) is from last year.

Overseas raiders enter quarantine ahead of trip to Melbourne

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All will complete two weeks' post-arrival quarantine at the Werribee International Horse Centre, before being cleared to chase Spring Racing Carnival riches.

 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Im having a rest because of easter....

But i will throw in Osborne Bulls in the last at Rosehill. Good luck and go dees.

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

@Macca Looks like two “Best Bets” today. 

Around $8 for the multi. Not bad for two legs. 

 

[Macca 16,903]

1 minute ago, Demon77 said:

@Macca Looks like two “Best Bets” today. 

Around $8 for the multi. Not bad for two legs.

I've worked a couple of trifectas around the picks D77 ... looking forward to the 2 Group 1's though. 

For a bit of each way value I like Torvill in the Vinery Stud Stakes (Race 7 Rosehill) and Golden Mane in the Easter Cup (Race 7 Caulfield)

[Macca 16,903]

James Jordan's tips have been posted up on Racing.com

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Opps i picked D77s pick as my best, my bad.....sorry. It better win then!!

Edit: Great minds think alike D77. Great win.

Edited March 31, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

3 hours ago, Macca said:

James Jordan's tips have been posted up on Racing.com

I couldnt really see the tips anywhere following that link but then i maybe blind...

[Macca 16,903]

2 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

I couldnt really see the tips anywhere following that link but then i maybe blind...

Once into the site click on Morphettville races then click on 'tips' (above right)

 

19 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Opps i picked D77s pick as my best, my bad.....sorry. It better win then!!

Edit: Great minds think alike D77. Great win.

We should give ourselves an extra win for the strike rate!  Well tipped gentlemen. 

Gailo Chop just found the distance a bit too long.  Almandin is a champ though - Sydney Cup is next up for the horse in a couple of weeks.  Could be a very good field too with a few of the stayers running into a bit of form.  Fanatic & Ormito should be starters. 

Hiyaam was too good for them in the Vinery.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

2 minutes ago, Macca said:

Once into the site click on Morphettville races then click on 'tips' (above right)

 

We should give ourselves an extra win for the strike rate!  Well tipped gentlemen. 

Gailo Chop just found the distance a bit too long.  Almandin is a champ though - Sydney Cup is next up for the horse in a couple of weeks.  Could be a very good field too with a few of the stayers running into a bit of form.  Fanatic & Ormito should be starters. 

Hiyaam was too good for them in the Vinery.

Awwww, up there...i see. I wonder if theyve been there every week....

Yes we should....you could have backed it twice if you wanted....haha..

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Of his first pick, he only missed twice with it win or place. Thats good.

[Macca 16,903]

Just now, Wadda We Sing said:

Awwww, up there...i see. I wonder if theyve been there every week....

Yes we should....you could have backed it twice if you wanted....haha..

The tips might have been up but I only noticed them after a few races today ... the tips haven't been there previously when I've looked but I stand corrected.  Maybe the word is spreading and racing.com have decided to post up his tips. 

And backing Osborne Bulls twice would have been a great choice Wadda! ... fairly sure 3.50 was available. 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

3 minutes ago, Macca said:

The tips might have been up but I only noticed them after a few races today ... the tips haven't been there previously when I've looked but I stand corrected.  Maybe the word is spreading and racing.com have decided to post up his tips. 

And backing Osborne Bulls twice would have been a great choice Wadda! ... fairly sure 3.50 was available. 

I got 3s but i forgot about odds boost.:(

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

2 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

I got 3s but i forgot about odds boost.:(

Ive rolled it into the Demons to win by under 39.5.

[Macca 16,903]

1 hour ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Ive rolled it into the Demons to win by under 39.5.

You cleaned up Wadda although we made real hard work of it.  Still, a win is a win is a win. 

Having a go in Dubai tonight? ha ha

I've got a 4 pick multi going just for an interest bet ... all favs so I hope to get the chance to cash out.  The races from Dubai are on the racing channel - just kicked off. 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

21 hours ago, Macca said:

You cleaned up Wadda although we made real hard work of it.  Still, a win is a win is a win. 

Having a go in Dubai tonight? ha ha

I've got a 4 pick multi going just for an interest bet ... all favs so I hope to get the chance to cash out.  The races from Dubai are on the racing channel - just kicked off. 

Mad doing margin betting on the Dees...........could be anything. More like dodged a bullet, but ill take it.

I must say im impressed with Ladbrokes. The always have odds up very quickly whilst TAB or AFL Crown suspend betting for minutes at a time. I just click on a live bet and they ring me within 5 secs. Its a pretty good service.

[Macca 16,903]

8 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Mad doing margin betting on the Dees...........could be anything. More like dodged a bullet, but ill take it.

I must say im impressed with Ladbrokes. The always have odds up very quickly whilst TAB or AFL Crown suspend betting for minutes at a time. I just click on a live bet and they ring me within 5 secs. Its a pretty good service.

In the end (for me at least) it comes down to the ease of navigating the website and the best odds on offer ... the TAB loses out on both fronts Wadda.  

Sat up and watched half the races from Dubai last night and then watched the rest of the races this morning ... some great racing on offer with a lot of good horses involved.  I didn't bet on the races apart from a very small multi that didn't work out.  They make a very big deal of it over there. 

Anyway ... here's a replay of the Dubai World Cup followed by the Derby ...

 

 

 

[Diamond_Jim 12,526]

Guys please some perspective ... what happened in the big one ?

Did the Zephyr salute?

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

43 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Guys please some perspective ... what happened in the big one ?

Did the Zephyr salute?

He ran a respectable 6th DJ. First run in 70 days.