11 minutes ago, stuie said:

Seen the figures for how many women have been murdered this year in Australia? It's pretty clearly a problem in itself whether your head is in the sand on purpose or not.

How many were related to child custody disputes? Or is that off topic?

The point of my statement is that it was a woman.  Of course violence against anyone is unacceptable BUT it was towards a woman.

Our Australian of the Year, Rosie Batty has been campaigning all year to raise awareness in this area hence my comment.  This is a perfect example of where we as a society need to do better.  Zero tolerance.

When will it be common knowledge that these 900 or so players are NOT role models, they are young men with a talent for playing football. They are a microcosm of the community, with all its great attributes of leadership, honesty, integrity. It also has it's issues, and drugs and violence are unfortunately part of it.

The AFL and clubland can educate and support, it is up to the young men with the talent to show what sort of men they want to be.

37 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

How many were related to child custody disputes? Or is that off topic?

That has absolutely no bearing on anything. Why would you even bring that up? Does that make it ok?

A friend of mine knows the owners of the bar, which is actually a japanese restaurant/bar thing. 

The female involved did far more to provoke the situation then the media reported, much more. 

Had a very "hot", running mouth and works in the media and sprouted so, whilst insulting Dusty for the form he was in as soon as he entered the building basically, which led to what he did. Still, all that aside, his "chopstick reaction" was not warranted and deserves to be punished.

1 minute ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

A friend of mine knows the owners of the bar, which is actually a japanese restaurant/bar thing. 

The female involved did far more to provoke the situation then the media reported, much more. 

Had a very "hot", running mouth and works in the media and sprouted so, whilst insulting Dusty for the form he was in as soon as he entered the building basically, which led to what he did. Still, all that aside, his "chopstick reaction" was not warranted and deserves to be punished.

This is a bit poor mate. So she was "asking for it" was she? It's now her fault for what he did? This is exactly what's wrong with attitudes at the moment.

Just now, stuie said:

This is a bit poor mate. So she was "asking for it" was she? It's now her fault for what he did? This is exactly what's wrong with attitudes at the moment.

lol. i didn't say any of that. Was just saying that there was more to the situation so people were informed, and it wasn't as if Dusty just came up to her for no reason. I can lie and say the situation was different if it appeases you? Perhaps you didn't read the part where i said, "all that aside, his reaction was uncalled for..."

But yes Stuie, you fill in the gaps to suit yourself as you please. 

2 minutes ago, stuie said:

This is a bit poor mate. So she was "asking for it" was she? It's now her fault for what he did? This is exactly what's wrong with attitudes at the moment.

Quotation marks are used to quote someone, where did he write "asking for it"?

Just now, The Song Formerly Known As said:

lol. i didn't say any of that. Was just saying that there was more to the situation so people were informed, and it wasn't as if Dusty just came up to her for no reason. I can lie and say the situation was different if it appeases you? Perhaps you didn't read the part where i said, "all that aside, his reaction was uncalled for..."

But yes Stuie, you fill in the gaps to suit yourself as you please. 

Sounds like the same old story. Oh he shouldn't have done it but she was running her mouth off... Pathetic. So physical violence is the appropriate response to a woman with a "hot running mouth"?

1 minute ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Quotation marks are used to quote someone, where did he write "asking for it"?

They are also used when you are clearly paraphrasing. But sure, if quotation marks is the issue here you knock yourself out with that.

Just now, stuie said:

Sounds like the same old story. Oh he shouldn't have done it but she was running her mouth off... Pathetic. So physical violence is the appropriate response to a woman with a "hot running mouth"?

 

wowee. You really are quite stupid. 
I explained the whole situation in full, and said that she was also verbally abusive to him. I never said she deserved any of it, or even mentioned physical violence as being an appropriate response. I was purely giving people the full insight into the situation, that the media hadn't reported. I will repeat myself again:

"Still, all that aside, his "chopstick reaction" was not warranted and deserves to be punished."
 

4 minutes ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

A friend of mine knows the owners of the bar, which is actually a japanese restaurant/bar thing. 

The female involved did far more to provoke the situation then the media reported, much more. 

Had a very "hot", running mouth and works in the media and sprouted so, whilst insulting Dusty for the form he was in as soon as he entered the building basically, which led to what he did. Still, all that aside, his "chopstick reaction" was not warranted and deserves to be punished.

According to Caro last night on 3AW the woman works as a Producer for Channel Seven. The Sunday Night show was mentioned I think. On SEN I think Mark Allen mentioned that the woman walked over to Martin and told him to settle down.

According to Caro Martin said "are you going to dob me in?".

The question was asked why didn't the restaurant staff step in?

1 minute ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

 

wowee. You really are quite stupid. 
I explained the whole situation in full, and said that she was also verbally abusive to him. I never said she deserved any of it, or even mentioned physical violence as being an appropriate response. I was purely giving people the full insight into the situation, that the media hadn't reported. I will repeat myself again:

"Still, all that aside, his "chopstick reaction" was not warranted and deserves to be punished."
 

Also: "Had a very "hot", running mouth and works in the media and sprouted so, whilst insulting Dusty for the form he was in as soon as he entered the building basically, which led to what he did."

There is no reasoning to be done here, there are no excuses, there is no version of this that makes what he did ok or anything the woman did that "led to what he did".

1 minute ago, M_9 said:

According to Caro last night on 3AW the woman works as a Producer for Channel Seven. The Sunday Night show was mentioned I think. On SEN I think Mark Allen mentioned that the woman walked over to Martin and told him to settle down.

According to Caro Martin said "are you going to dob me in?".

The question was asked why didn't the restaurant staff step in?

From my mate, Stuie please ignore as you will take it out of context.

"The owners tried to remove her because they saw what she was doing but she started yelling who she worked for and that they'd all be on the news and that's when Dusty lost it again. His reaction was obviously totally uncalled for."

2 minutes ago, M_9 said:

According to Caro last night on 3AW the woman works as a Producer for Channel Seven. The Sunday Night show was mentioned I think. On SEN I think Mark Allen mentioned that the woman walked over to Martin and told him to settle down.

According to Caro Martin said "are you going to dob me in?".

The question was asked why didn't the restaurant staff step in?

Ah yes what a silly woman choosing to approach a big tough man disturbing everyone and run her "hot mouth" off. Poor Dusty was trapped I tells ya. It's obviously all a setup and he's the real victim here. Women should know their place and not try to talk to men unless spoken to.

1 minute ago, stuie said:

Also: "Had a very "hot", running mouth and works in the media and sprouted so, whilst insulting Dusty for the form he was in as soon as he entered the building basically, which led to what he did."

There is no reasoning to be done here, there are no excuses, there is no version of this that makes what he did ok or anything the woman did that "led to what he did".

All hail Stuie, protecting women's rights by fighting people on internet by taking them out of context. 

2 minutes ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

From my mate, Stuie please ignore as you will take it out of context.

"The owners tried to remove her because they saw what she was doing but she started yelling who she worked for and that they'd all be on the news and that's when Dusty lost it again. His reaction was obviously totally uncalled for."

That's absolute rubbish to do that. They're basically saying it's her fault and then adding the little after note of "oh but he shouldn't have done it... probably... I guess..." (ps - that's not an actual quote, it's a clear paraphrasing).

Great owners by the way trying to remove her rather than the clearly (at least) drunk footy star.

Seen the video kicking around by the way Song? It shows Martin clearly standing over the woman who is sitting at her table.

2 minutes ago, stuie said:

Ah yes what a silly woman choosing to approach a big tough man disturbing everyone and run her "hot mouth" off. Poor Dusty was trapped I tells ya. It's obviously all a setup and he's the real victim here. Women should know their place and not try to talk to men unless spoken to.

 

no one is justifying what Dusty did. You are actually going off your [censored] about things you have made up in your head. Quite sad. 

You should change your name to "SJW Stuie" I think

15 minutes ago, stuie said:

This is a bit poor mate. So she was "asking for it" was she? It's now her fault for what he did? This is exactly what's wrong with attitudes at the moment.

that is so NOT what he said

1 minute ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

All hail Stuie, protecting women's rights by fighting people on internet by taking them out of context. 

Oh sorry Song, you're right, they should all get back in the kitchen and not run their "hot mouths" off.

1 minute ago, stuie said:

That's absolute rubbish to do that. They're basically saying it's her fault and then adding the little after note of "oh but he shouldn't have done it... probably... I guess..." (ps - that's not an actual quote, it's a clear paraphrasing).

Great owners by the way trying to remove her rather than the clearly (at least) drunk footy star.

Seen the video kicking around by the way Song? It shows Martin clearly standing over the woman who is sitting at her table.

 

It's an internet forum. Had some inside knowledge, so i shared it. None of my own opinions were placed in this, just the knowledge i had. 

2 minutes ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

 

no one is justifying what Dusty did. You are actually going off your [censored] about things you have made up in your head. Quite sad. 

"Had a very "hot", running mouth and works in the media and sprouted so, whilst insulting Dusty for the form he was in as soon as he entered the building basically, which led to what he did."

Now that's a direct quote.

Stuie has actually lost his mind. 

2 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

that is so NOT what he said

Already explained this once.

Read point 3 HERE