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i must have missed something. when did aly get his qualifications as a climate scientist?

his opinion on agw is no more useful than any poster's opinion on demonland 

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    6 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    i must have missed something. when did aly get his qualifications as a climate scientist?

    his opinion on agw is no more useful than any poster's opinion on demonland 

    He's a journalist DC, like it or not that's where we get the bulk of our information, that's their job. Bolt, likewise, isn't a climate scientist but a journalist.

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    1 hour ago, Choke said:

    He's a journalist DC, like it or not that's where we get the bulk of our information, that's their job. Bolt, likewise, isn't a climate scientist but a journalist.

    agree, but why are we arguing about his interpretation of a graph, as though it is meaningful

    the question in this case should be more about the validity/invalidity of satellite lower atmosphere temperature readings.

    and the argument is not about post industrial warming, but rather why the climatologists model predictions got the last 18 years wrong, if in fact they did

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    3 hours ago, ProDee said:

    Aly is wrong because even Professor Matthew England, an Australian scientist as passionately warmist as Aly himself, nevertheless now admits there has indeed been the warming pause that Aly denies, even if, like Mears, he seeks excuses for it:

    The near two-decade long “pause” in rising average global surface temperatures was a “distraction” that did not change long-term model predictions of a much ­hotter world this century, according to new research.

    Climate scientists at University of NSW said “natural variability” could explain the slowdown or “hiatus” despite strongly rising ­levels of carbon ­dioxide in the ­atmosphere…

    Research leader Matthew ­England said ...  “It is simply due to decadal variability. Greenhouse gases will eventually overwhelm this natural fluctuation,” he said…

    “This much-hyped global warming slowdown is just a distraction to the task at hand”.

    Aly is wrong. Aly has misinformed his viewers.

    The fact that you are putting so much strength/faith in Dr England's words in order to discredit Aly's claim, would tend to indicate that the rest of what he has to say there must have merit as well... ergo, "This much-hyped global warming slowdown is just a distraction to the task at hand".  Not only did he discredit Aly, it seems he has discredited your good self as well.

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    So the OP'er has an issue on emailing The Age, I take it? 

    And 'the issue' has moved to journalists views on ISIL/ISIS...... to climate change. When there's a thread littered with debate on climate change.

     

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    1 hour ago, H_T said:

    So the OP'er has an issue on emailing The Age, I take it? 

    And 'the issue' has moved to journalists views on ISIL/ISIS...... to climate change. When there's a thread littered with debate on climate change.

     

    Well, this may be the General Discussion forum, but it is still Demonland after all.

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    35 minutes ago, hardtack said:

    Well, this may be the General Discussion forum, but it is still Demonland after all.

    As long as you guys are getting along like a house on fire. 

     

     

    It's been a pretty bleak and cold winter here. One of the coldest winters in 20 years. Do the satellites understand that?

    Best I stick to other matters hey PJ...:pj:

     

    Back to the your discussion on The Age email contacts...

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    7 minutes ago, H_T said:

    As long as you guys are getting along like a house on fire. 

     

     

     

    I bowed out of this debate mid last year - my fragile ego couldn't handle continually getting my head kicked in...

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    6 hours ago, hardtack said:

    The fact that you are putting so much strength/faith in Dr England's words in order to discredit Aly's claim, would tend to indicate that the rest of what he has to say there must have merit as well... ergo, "This much-hyped global warming slowdown is just a distraction to the task at hand".  Not only did he discredit Aly, it seems he has discredited your good self as well.

    None of those words are mine.  They are all part of Bolt's article. 

    I wrote the first line re "balance" and nothing more. 

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    3 hours ago, ProDee said:

    None of those words are mine.  They are all part of Bolt's article. 

    I wrote the first line re "balance" and nothing more. 

    Ok, my bad.... in which case I will presume Bolt must have put a lot of faith in England's views.

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    10 hours ago, hardtack said:

    Ok, my bad.... in which case I will presume Bolt must have put a lot of faith in England's views.

    It has nothing to do with faith.

    As Bolt says, England is a "warmist", but at least knows how to read a graph and tries to explain the "pause".

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    On 12/15/2015 at 9:29 PM, Colin B. Flaubert said:

    Before we continue this little tete a tete, may I assume that you are referring to the graph Andrew Bolt produces from NOA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) that supposedly shows the hottest year post 1997 being 1998?

    I'm happy to reference any of the satellite data. 

    I'm not sure what NOA data Andrew Bolt is showing that you refer to but I'm guessing NOA produce it not him.

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