Pathetic. Is that the absolute best you can come back with? Straw argument?

You are contradicting yourself. You admit we're not 'overly' profitable, you admit we are suffering from poor decision making, you admit we are struggling with payouts but you still wont concede that selling home games is a part of our solution.

Look at the evidence. Why is Hawthorn flying? Anything to do with selling home games to Tassie? Any reason why North, Richmond and St Kilda are all selling home games?

It's a catch 22; we are not profitable, so we sell games interstate to make some money, but will continue to lose ground here if we continue to sell games interstate.

How attractive are we if we only have 9 home games a year and most of them against other bottom, poor drawing clubs?

When do you draw the line and say, we are a Victorian club, we will play our home games in Victoria and not be part of the circuit where the highest bidder, each year, will secure our services?

You can't compare us to Hawthorn, they are a very successful club with a massive following, that's taken up residence for half the season about an hour and $100 away from here; it probably takes longer to get to Geelong than Tassie.

But they wouldn't know that, because unlike us, they never play there.

Hey chap, ever been to a Darwin game, I have, 3 of them, (not this year unfortunately life and a daughters wedding took priority), last time I was up there went to a local shop, we stay out of the city centre and shopkeeper (who was Asian) chatted happily to me about the footy, knew quite a bit about the Dees.....so sorry you are wrong.......by the way, I travel to quite a few games, and if you are talking proximity, how about living on the corner of Vic Parade and Hoddle St, is that close enough to the G.

Melbourne play in the AFL, much to WYL's disgust changed the name from VFL a few years ago

I , like everybody else, want the Club to succeed and get on a solid footing both on and off the field, so to quote Jim Stynes "whatever it takes"

Nupp..and dont want to. Good for you that you can and enjoy it.

How exaclty , really, does a game set against a backdrop of 7615 spectators do anything, except look desperate and ridiculous.

There's simply no way to put a good spin on selling games to NT (even if the weather was reasonable).

Geez the Demonland Sooks are out in numbers today. Get over it.

It's an Australian Game, not all Demon supporters live in Melbourne. And to single out Darwin residents as drunks etc just shows how pathetic some people are on here.

We need to build the relevance of this Club to this city and the potential AFL populous with an interest in following us...not dilute it.

Nupp..and dont want to. Good for you that you can and enjoy it.

How exaclty , really, does a game set against a backdrop of 7615 spectators do anything, except look desperate and ridiculous.

Ask GWS

Ask GWS

and your point ?

We need to build the relevance of this Club to this city and the potential AFL populous with an interest in following us...not dilute it.

We are also trying to do that as well, but have you thought that perhaps a person looking to support, seeks out information comes to this site and finds "supporters" doing nothing but bleat about the Club....anyway if you want to encourage new supporters, Nineteen is on a recruiting drive again for volunteers to ring out to members both old and new, feel free to come and join us

and your point ?

That's the number they play to at Skoda, trying to build a market

bb and wyl we are always going to be diametrically opposed on this one.

As I have argued numerous times in the past

Good teams will win anywhere and bad ones don't IMO it is that simple.

since the MFC has been going to Darwin we have struggled to beat time with a stick.

guess what we lose wether it is before at or after a trip to the NT.

What would your opinion be if tomorrow it was announced that the NT is to be our major sponsor

and they are tipping in $2miilion PA ?

WE need the money desperately guys end of story

We are also trying to do that as well, but have you thought that perhaps a person looking to support, seeks out information comes to this site and finds "supporters" doing nothing but bleat about the Club....anyway if you want to encourage new supporters, Nineteen is on a recruiting drive again for volunteers to ring out to members both old and new, feel free to come and join us

you really think this site has any great relevance to anyone outside of US ? So many arguments spun about handfuls of numbers where the greatest influence and potential of Melbourne ..is right here in this city. You will be getting more ppl interested via Casey then you every will out of the Northern experiments.

That's the number they play to at Skoda, trying to build a market

and its looks just as desperate and ridiculous...thats the point.

They have a bottomless well of money over an infinite period of time. Hardly a comparison of merit

you really think this site has any great relevance to anyone outside of US ? So many arguments spun about handfuls of numbers where the greatest influence and potential of Melbourne ..is right here in this city. You will be getting more ppl interested via Casey then you every will out of the Northern experiments.

bb it is not about the numbers of supporters it is about the money mate.

bb and wyl we are always going to be diametrically opposed on this one.

As I have argued numerous times in the past

Good teams will win anywhere and bad ones don't IMO it is that simple.

since the MFC has been going to Darwin we have struggled to beat time with a stick.

guess what we lose wether it is before at or after a trip to the NT.

What would your opinion be if tomorrow it was announced that the NT is to be our major sponsor

and they are tipping in $2miilion PA ?

WE need the money desperately guys end of story

but they dont

bb it is not about the numbers of supporters it is about the money mate.

wow , that never occured to me OD...

Hey chap, ever been to a Darwin game, I have, 3 of them, (not this year unfortunately life and a daughters wedding took priority), last time I was up there went to a local shop, we stay out of the city centre and shopkeeper (who was Asian, and yes he was going to the game) chatted happily to me about the footy, knew quite a bit about the Dees.....so sorry you are wrong.......by the way, I travel to quite a few games, and if you are talking proximity, how about living on the corner of Vic Parade and Hoddle St, is that close enough to the G.

Melbourne play in the AFL, much to WYL's disgust, changed the name from VFL a few years ago

I , like everybody else, want the Club to succeed and get on a solid footing both on and off the field, so to quote Jim Stynes "whatever it takes"

Well aware the VFL changed to the AFL in 1990.

How many members have been signed since 2010 in the NT?

The package is a money grab because the previous regime stuffed up.

We do not play for premiership points in the desert by choice.

happy to be corrected by I would think the increase of even 5000 extra at our gated games would eclipse the" rent money "

Mono has it...its all spin in regard to selling this

Well aware the VFL changed to the AFL in 1990.

How many members have been signed since 2010 in the NT?

The package is a money grab because the previous regime stuffed up.

We do not play for premiership points in the desert by choice.

Gee a post about the previous regime and no mention of Cam Scwab, so the therapy is working WYL, ring the Club and ask you may get a surprise, they will be able to tell you exactly, I know I have rung quite a few.....can I ask do you go to any games at Etihad?

Well aware the VFL changed to the AFL in 1990.

How many members have been signed since 2010 in the NT?

The package is a money grab because the previous regime stuffed up.

We do not play for premiership points in the desert by choice.

And Hawthorn don't play in the arctic of Tasmania by choice either wyl

It is for the money

We need the money we play in the NT

And Hawthorn don't play in the arctic of Tasmania by choice either wyl

It is for the money

We need the money we play in the NT

yeh but

Its not that inclimate ...apparently some days above zero...true dinks !!

They have potential for real gains there.They get members..all that stuff. Tassie is a footy nuts paradise.

Hell hawks even make money on the gate there lol

and its looks just as desperate and ridiculous...thats the point.

They have a bottomless well of money over an infinite period of time. Hardly a comparison of merit

Plus the fact they are a "start up club" with no previous support; we are an established club with a dormant supporter base that will remain so as long as we make it unattractive to support us.

We can flounder around in Darwin, attracting no support and derision from the rest of the AFL supporters, or try to turn it around here and satisfy the 90% plus supporters that live here.

I don't have any issues with Darwin, but at the moment it doesn't seem to have done us a lot of good.

Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet.

Gee a post about the previous regime and no mention of Cam Scwab, so the therapy is working WYL, ring the Club and ask you may get a surprise, they will be able to tell you exactly, I know I have rung quite a few.....can I ask do you go to any games at Etihad?

Answer the question Satr.

What are the signed membership from the NT since 2010?

I haven't been to Etihad since 2005. Not enough leg room.

Apart from AC/DC

And Hawthorn don't play in the arctic of Tasmania by choice either wyl

It is for the money

We need the money we play in the NT

I know we do OD, thus compromising our chances of climbing the ladder.

The spin says it is about growing the game.

The reality is that the NT Government give us a truckload of $$$

But it does compromise the players on the field.

I know we do OD, thus compromising our chances of climbing the ladder.

The spin says it is about growing the game.

The reality is that the NT Government give us a truckload of $$$

But it does compromise the players on the field.

We have trashed this to death in the past mate.

I don't believe it does have any big effect on the players.

End for me as the two sides to this are never going to agree.

Have a good day guys.

We have trashed this to death in the past mate.

I don't believe it does have any big effect on the players.

End for me as the two sides to this are never going to agree.

Have a good day guys.

fair enough. But if you had spent time up in the red dirt i think our opinions would be closer.