James Magner upgraded

[Nasher 33,607]

So here's a question, do we keep him beyond this season?

My answer would be yes; his work ethic is great and is a handy depth player, especially while we have nothing else. I believe he should have been playing as much as possible this season as he is a big clearance winner.

No. As an insider he's second rate, and he doesn't help with our biggest issue which is outside run. In a year where we've been screaming out for quality mids, two coaches have turned their back on him. He was worth the shot but I wouldn't keep him.

[Little Richard 6,262]

No. As an insider he's second rate, and he doesn't help with our biggest issue which is outside run. In a year where we've been screaming out for quality mids, two coaches have turned their back on him. He was worth the shot but I wouldn't keep him.

Although I hope we do, I think this is a pretty accurate assessment. You'd think he'd have played more games if we were serious about giving him a contract past this year.

[Pates 9,660]

Yet again, I have to ask why did we upgrade him if we're not going to play him? Clearly the club can't see a future for him at the club otherwise he'd be playing given his consistent Casey form

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Looks to me like idiots still run things at MFC

I'm afraid they've never left 31, at least not entirely. The fact we have the worst mid field in the comp but our mid field coach over the last 2 disgraceful seasons is still coaching the mid field, is testament to that. Let alone the fact that he should have been fighting tooth and nail to get the extra mid, in Magner, into the middle to help with rotations well before now.

If we don't land Roos (or 2nd banana Choco) and just as importantly a few very strong mid field recruits (along with some decent assistant/line coaches) i'm afraid The AFL will be funding us for 10s of millions over the next decade and most within the comp (Clubs/Club Presidents/Journos/Opposition supporters) will be calling for us to be axed/relocated. Not that this hasn't been suggested already by some.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

this is a really strange club df26

Very strange. It doesn't resemble "a club" in any normal sense of the word Daisy. Quite possibly part of the reason why players don't turn up to play very often. Decisions which completely deflate and fail to inspire. From the outside it would appear that it doesn't seem to reward "effort" consistantly or promote a hard working "team" environment. It's been run like an "old boys" NETWORK by the boys, for the boys, for decades. Never grown into a real club, let alone a professionaly run AFL one until now. The fact we haven't won an "AFL" premiership since its inception in 1990 and an AFL/VFL one in 49 years says it all.

Edited August 9, 2013 by Rusty Nails

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

Nice. Another defensive mid. Thats gonna help our record low inside 50s

Not sure about that olisik.

Up to Round 15 Magner is ranked 5th for inside 50s.

Only 2 matches i realise but the record is there. Should have received more game time given the parlous state of our mid field stocks atm.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

So here's a question, do we keep him beyond this season?

My answer would be yes; his work ethic is great and is a handy depth player, especially while we have nothing else. I believe he should have been playing as much as possible this season as he is a big clearance winner.

Firstly, in relation to whether he stays or goes, i don't think he's been given enough opportunity so far to be sure as to whether he deserves another run at it or not. Another poorly managed aspect of the list in what is our worst year by a long way IMO.

Your assumption that he's a big clearance winner is correct insofar as his average places him 2nd only behind the Jones boy. That's up to round 15 anyway based on all player averages.

No. As an insider he's second rate, and he doesn't help with our biggest issue which is outside run. In a year where we've been screaming out for quality mids, two coaches have turned their back on him. He was worth the shot but I wouldn't keep him.

See above re inside clearance work. His stats tell a different tale as stated. In addition Magner ranks 2nd, again only to Jones, for contested posessions (based on all player averages/data up to Round 15). I would agree with you re outside RUN in terms of creating overlap/spread and carry. Magner ranks 11th in uncontested possession averages to round 15 and 28th in bounces. However I don't think anyone would expect him to be outstanding here including the recruiting dept. I would see him more as a foil/alternative to fill in for Jones boy (inside work/pressure etc) while Jones is being rested either on the bench or forward. What Magner might offer is a hard work ethic and willingness to push hard to get to many contests. An area where Magner lets himself down is disposal effectiveness where he's ranked 30th. He would need to clean that up in a big way to have a meaningfull impact i would think.

Having said that, looking forward we obviously have to improve our mid field stocks to be AFL level competitive. Just referring to the here/now/season gone and where Magner sits in a relative sense on our existing list.

Edited August 9, 2013 by Rusty Nails

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

No. As an insider he's second rate, and he doesn't help with our biggest issue which is outside run. In a year where we've been screaming out for quality mids, two coaches have turned their back on him. He was worth the shot but I wouldn't keep him.

In a nutshell.

Its amazing how people on this site enthuse over brass and think its something more.

He is not good enough and he wont get a geg next year. And thats taking into account we could offload another 9-10 players off the main list and it wont help his cause one bit.

[beelzebub 23,313]

this is a really strange club df26

very !!