Terrible on the weekend, just terrible, no matter how much sugar you coat him with.

It stands out like a beacon that Jones should be captain.

Hopefully they correct it before next year, Im sure they will, its pretty obvious.

I can absolutely assure you that they won't. Inside the club they are rapt with the leadership group and particularly the co-captains.

Poor from mate Jack watts bashing again give it a rest.

Jack watts is in the top 3 players at our club in the last 5 weeks.

But guys like you cant help yourself.

Everything at the MFC is jack watts fault. lol

By the way Big Jim JW rolled his ankle early in Sundays game and played on because we could not sub him.

Poor from mate Jack watts bashing again give it a rest.

Jack watts is in the top 3 players at our club in the last 5 weeks.

But guys like you cant help yourself.

Everything at the MFC is jack watts fault. lol

By the way Big Jim JW rolled his ankle early in Sundays game and played on because we could not sub him.

I don't understand this thread.

The OP makes an excellent point. We should probably trade him, along with Trengove.

Seriously though. People will come on here and say his been injured yada yada which is true. He has not been able to string any sort of football together through his career but then again why is he captain? Why do supporters love him? I read comments that he will be elite but he has no elite trait. Went at 38% disposal efficiency on Sunday, has no real speed, is not a good kick, doesn't win much contest ball etc. Am I missing something when it comes to Grimes? I have him on par with Ben Howlett from Essendon which I dont mean as any disrespect but there is no hype around Howlett yet mention the name Jack Grimes and for some reason Melbourne supporters froth at the mouth. I hope I am wrong with Grimes but I can't see an elite footballer in him just an honest servant

Apply the logic we used on Jones, (wanting him traded out),,, to Grimes, next year or the one after.

Seriously though. People will come on here and say his been injured yada yada which is true. He has not been able to string any sort of football together through his career but then again why is he captain? Why do supporters love him? I read comments that he will be elite but he has no elite trait. Went at 38% disposal efficiency on Sunday, has no real speed, is not a good kick, doesn't win much contest ball etc. Am I missing something when it comes to Grimes? I have him on par with Ben Howlett from Essendon which I dont mean as any disrespect but there is no hype around Howlett yet mention the name Jack Grimes and for some reason Melbourne supporters froth at the mouth. I hope I am wrong with Grimes but I can't see an elite footballer in him just an honest servant

Huh?

When was Jack Grimes getting hyped up? Have I missed something?

Seriously?

The OP makes an excellent point. We should probably trade him, along with Trengove.

Don't forget Watts.

The OP makes an excellent point. We should probably trade him, along with Trengove.

I never said trade him. I just said what is with all the hype. When young players get hyped I can see it. Hell you can see it in Watts, you could see it in Trengove last year, you can see it in Frawley. Even in other teams you can see it aka Cotchin, Heppell, Gaff. Ask quite a few Melbourne supporter an they'd chuck Grimes' name along with Watts, Trengove, and Frawley. Personally can't see it. I think he could be a good player but is he the core 4 to 6 players top sides have.

When you see the likes of Jobe Watson, Dan Swan etc improve so drastically it shows that anything is possible and Grimes could well develop into an elite gun that will lead the club forward. Haven't written him off just not exactly aboard the Grimes bandwagon

His disposal is ordinary unless he's under pressure. His disposal efficiency increases when he's under physical pressure, as does his decision-making (which can be ordinary when he has time and space).

He should just play instinctually instead of thinking.

He has the ability to win possessions & consistently rack them up wherever he has played which is not a bad place to start when becoming a good footballer. It's more about attitude, application & leadership with Grimes. Brett Kirk didn't have any elite traits either, look at the footballer he became.

Think Jobe Watson. He could always find the football, he was poised and strong, but in his early days his kicking was considered a real liability... Familiar?

Off field as well as on, Grimes apparently exudes focus.

This isn't "x factor", it's "c factor" - class. It's what Scully was supposed to have, and may still, though it's getting well and truly overshadowed by personality issues in his case. Grimes is the real deal.

For a 22y.o. player who started the season with just 32 games to his name and was charged with captaining a rabble, he has done as well as could be reasonably expected. He's a smart player who knows how to acculmulate possesions. If he can stay injury free and do full pre-seasons he'll keep improving.