I reckon Jones Dawes and grimes, didn't the Swans have three at one stage

Don't confuse performance with leadership, his refusal to give off to Tyson early in the game and to square it late in the game were genuine examples of me-first football.

Yep, there were a few times he should have given off yesterday and I'm sure it will come up in the review. Trying to do a bit too much.

Grimes won't be demoted during the season, nor quietly urged to fall on his sword. Simply not the way Roos works, as mot will surly understand. If his best form doesn't come back he may well stand down. If that happens, I'd expect Dawes and Jones to be co-captains, flat-out committed leads of a flat-out committed team.

Grimes won't be demoted during the season, nor quietly urged to fall on his sword. Simply not the way Roos works, as mot will surly understand. If his best form doesn't come back he may well stand down. If that happens, I'd expect Dawes and Jones to be co-captains, flat-out committed leads of a flat-out committed team.

Spot on..

No better time for a bump. Paul Roos, you have done a HELL of a job.

Within a year of coming in, Roos has stripped Trengove and Grimes of the captaincy.

Our captaincy should've always been performanced based.

Thank you Paul Roos.

Spot on..

No better time for a bump. Paul Roos, you have done a HELL of a job.

Within a year of coming in, Roos has stripped Trengove and Grimes of the captaincy.

Our captaincy should've always been performanced based.

Thank you Paul Roos.

You seem to have the inside knowledge on what Roos does - what other secrets can you let us into.

"This has been a hard decision, which I have spent considerable time thinking about during the off-season. During this period, I have spoken to a number of people I trust and I appreciate the support of the Club in respecting this decision.”

Obviously the above statement above from Grimes is utter nonsense according to you ?

Spot on..

No better time for a bump. Paul Roos, you have done a HELL of a job.

Within a year of coming in, Roos has stripped Trengove and Grimes of the captaincy.

Our captaincy should've always been performanced based.

Thank you Paul Roos.

Classic case of using the wrong logic to come up with the right answer. Well done Ding.

I also would like a definition of "performance based".

I talked to a current Collingwood player ( ewww I know) and he said that Maxwell was outstanding as a captain. Best player ? Best performed ? Nowhere near it. He said that structure and leadership he provided on the ground and importantly off the ground was immeasurable.

I also would like a definition of "performance based".

I talked to a current Collingwood player ( ewww I know) and he said that Maxwell was outstanding as a captain. Best player ? Best performed ? Nowhere near it. He said that structure and leadership he provided on the ground and importantly off the ground was immeasurable.

MFC needed a performed based leader. We'd slipped into a culture of dependence and mediocrity, Nathan Jones was the only guy at the time who represented something else. Nathan Jones represented a guy who taken full responsibility, didn't blame others, just put his head down and played quality football - that is the type of leader MFC needed.

Look at all the guys that came through our club, Scully, Moloney, McLean, etc. All players who blamed others when things went wrong.

Nathan Jones blamed no-one, he led through is actions - and that is exactly what MFC needed to do at the time.

Nick Maxwell was a good leader for Collingwood, but their club circumstance was A LOT different to ours.

Collingwood has an even spread of leaders - and Maxwell got to do an apprenticeship under Buckley.

Nick Maxwell was surrounded by leaders. Maxwell served the purpose of getting those leaders to work together.

Neeld's co-captaincy experiment was an utter failure, even if the concept does work - appointing young kids and expecting them to lead a poorly run football club = a recipe for disaster.

Jones will get the nod.

Dunn is my selection as VC

You created this thread/poll, the results conclusively show that almost 4 -1 are against the idea, so why not bow to popular opinion and concede - why put up a poll in the first place if you refuse to accept the result?

LOL.

Man... someone is upset that they called you out

Man... someone is upset that they called you out

Yeah, the only disappointing thing about his poll is that a lot of the 'yes' votes came years after it was started.

Yeah, the only disappointing thing about this poll is that a lot of the 'yes' votes came years after it was started.

LOL. The only reason people are still voting on it is because you keep bumping your own thread.

Bask in the glory one last time cos I think we're done here.