Black Caviar

[H_T 3,049]

Diamond Jubilee Stakes June 23 in England at Royal Ascot will be Black Caviar's next start.

Will Frankel be in that race ? Activity with bookies suggests it might.

Whilst I was hoping she might go up against Pinker Pinker this Saturday, the owners are fixed on operation England.

No Dubai trip either as was mooted. I wonder what the plans might be for our Spring.

[mollydee 22]

we need some international racing ,or Sepoy to really be able to tell how good they are .

You sound like a Sepoy owner with Black Caviar envy.

[mauriesy 7,357]

Sepoy should race BC, but only if they both carry 65kg.

[mollydee 22]

Sepoy lost to Smart Missile who then went on to beat Hay List .

The only time Smart Missile and Hay List have been entered in the same race meeting was 9th April 2011 at Randwick when Hay List came 2nd by 2.8L to Black Caviar in the T J Smith [Group 1 ] .

Smart Missile was scratched from the Sires Produce [also Group 1 ] at the same meeting.

They have never run in the same race.

Edited February 22, 2012 by mollydee

[H_T 3,049]

The only time Smart Missile and Hay List have been entered in the same race meeting was 9th April 2011 at Randwick when Hay List came 2nd by 2.8L to Black Caviar in the T J Smith [Group 1 ] .

Smart Missile was scratched from the Sires Produce [also Group 1 ] at the same meeting.

They have never run in the same race.

So could we support the experts in racing that believe it goes something like this for best sprinters in Australasia....:

Black Caviar > daylight > Hay List > daylight >

[Biffen 12,947]

Sepoy should race BC, but only if they both carry 65kg.

I think Sepoy is only 3 ,so should carry less in WFA but who knows .

Wish I was a part owner of either of them .

[Biffen 12,947]

Diamond Jubilee Stakes June 23 in England at Royal Ascot will be Black Caviar's next start.

Will Frankel be in that race ? Activity with bookies suggests it might.

Whilst I was hoping she might go up against Pinker Pinker this Saturday, the owners are fixed on operation England.

No Dubai trip either as was mooted. I wonder what the plans might be for our Spring.

Hide and wait for Autumn as per usual .Moody Blues .

Edited February 22, 2012 by Biffen

[Biffen 12,947]

The only time Smart Missile and Hay List have been entered in the same race meeting was 9th April 2011 at Randwick when Hay List came 2nd by 2.8L to Black Caviar in the T J Smith [Group 1 ] .

Smart Missile was scratched from the Sires Produce [also Group 1 ] at the same meeting.

They have never run in the same race.

I stand corrected . But not on the fact that watching BC and Hay List run is beyond boring -although HL would be a champ in another era .

[Biffen 12,947]

Religion is such a solid base isn't it!

Blessed are the cheesemakers old mate!

[Sir Why You Little 37,132]

Blessed are the cheesemakers old mate!

It wasn't meant to be taken literally...more for all manufacturers of Dairy Products..!

[H_T 3,049]

Sepoy - Yeah good horse, beaten well in the Oakleigh Plate by several. Was nice to back Woorim to a win.

[Biffen 12,947]

Sepoy - Yeah good horse, beaten well in the Oakleigh Plate by several. Was nice to back Woorim to a win.

Bulls#$t you did!

No good telling everyone afterwards

Just like telling us what a champion BC is after 14 wins!

HT , if there's a band-wagon ,you'll jump on it -safe bet .

[H_T 3,049]

Would I bullsh!t you ?

I most likely wouldn't have put it on, but my sudden interest in Sepoy and analyzing the field took precedence before the race. Given Woorim's first up form, it was a good get for the quaddie punters ..

I really should thank you for it Biffen. Having pricked my interest in Sepoy.

So, thanks !

[Biffen 12,947]

i thught you only backed 20-1 ON shots .Show me your ticket !

[H_T 3,049]

i thught you only backed 20-1 ON shots .Show me your ticket !

Haven't backed BC at all. If that's what you're insinuating. No value. Get much better value on Sepoy though, hey ?

[Biffen 12,947]

Then why do you tout it?

Sepoy was the top weight as a three year old !

You and Dennis Naphtine can go set up another win for BC here .

Put them both over 1400 at WFA. That would be an interesting race .

Tickets please?

[Biffen 12,947]

Haven't backed BC at all. If that's what you're insinuating. No value. Get much better value on Sepoy though, hey ?

Got 9 to 1 on him as a maiden .

Track whispers told me he might win the Blue Diamond !

Didn't think he'd get the Slipper too .

[H_T 3,049]

Because she is a phenomenon.

To be honest I don't agree with the government financing a race to suit. If that's the case just find a race that suits which already exists.

No ticket. Phone account.

[Biffen 12,947]

Well she has 61.5 to lump in the Newmarket if Moody has the balls to race her at that weight .

But he wont .

The streak is good-but weight can stop a train HT .

Carbine ,Northerly ,Phar Lap could carry 62 plus .

BC wont .

Put all your cash on her brother if you want a sure thing at reasonable odds .

Hawkes trained-ALL TOO HARD.

Edited February 28, 2012 by Biffen

[H_T 3,049]

Would you send her into the race as her trainer with 61.5 ? - keeping in mind she has already won the Newmarket race with a record 58 kg.

I suppose what needs to be weighed up, is whether she is greater value traveling to the Uk undefeated. It's about the $$ now and keeping the record intact I feel.

Get the vibe re this latest news is they want the Australiasian record broken in Australia before the UK.

If she raced in the Newmarket with that weight I still reckon she would win.

[Biffen 12,947]

Keeping the record intact seems to be the objective .

That is basically the whole thrust of my argument re greatness .

I don't think she will race in the Newmarket with that weight either .

It's good ,clever training by Moody to have an undefeated horse .

I think we may never know how good she really is until she carries the huge weights .

Her breeding value will be more than her entire career prizemoney .

About $5mill a foal I reckon .

Lucky owners .

So you Think still has his knackers I believe .Some more freakish progeny to come form her no doubt .

[Biffen 12,947]

Would you send her into the race as her trainer with 61.5 ? - keeping in mind she has already won the Newmarket race with a record 58 kg.

I suppose what needs to be weighed up, is whether she is greater value traveling to the Uk undefeated. It's about the $$ now and keeping the record intact I feel.

Get the vibe re this latest news is they want the Australiasian record broken in Australia before the UK.

If she raced in the Newmarket with that weight I still reckon she would win.

Just took a look at Tobin Bronze-what a freak .2 Cox Plates and a Caulfield Cup carrying 61.5 plus others .

[Biffen 12,947]

Sepoy - Yeah good horse, beaten well in the Oakleigh Plate by several. Was nice to back Woorim to a win.

Was asked to carry a record weight for a 3 year old. Didn't scratch ,sat up front in a wicked tempo and lost by a length .Sh%t effort?

[Biffen 12,947]

Well she has 61.5 to lump in the Newmarket if Moody has the balls to race her at that weight .

But he wont .

The streak is good-but weight can stop a train HT .

Carbine ,Northerly ,Phar Lap could carry 62 plus .

BC wont .

Put all your cash on her brother if you want a sure thing at reasonable odds .

Hawkes trained-ALL TOO HARD.

[H_T 3,049]

Atlantic Jewel just about matches BC for sectionals and speed.

We have a contender.