Simon Godfrey was a good tagger as well. If Bartram is as good as Clint Jones then sure keep him, but I doubt he is. Bail and McKenzie should be our two defensive orientated midfielders, Bartram is just depth.

Possibly...Let's wait till we get to september to feel the real pressure...You could be right, i just think Barty is under rated for what he does...

IF he wasn't there, we WOULD miss him.

Bartram is better than Godfrey.

Nev's not exactly slow is he?

Love this guy - reminds me a lot of Whelan at his best.

I reckon his kicking has definitely improved in the last year or so as well...

With a pre-season under his belt, he'll be just what we need, he chases his guts out. Like Davey used to.

He is slow, but he's also a good footballer.

He was playing well before he hurt his hand, and he had a game busting 5 minutes yesterday.

Has a determination about him that will see him continue to improve. As mentioned, how much he can improve will determine how long he's around.

A big preseason will help.

he will have a bit of an interupted start to the pre season, from what i hear he will be going under the knife after next week, and having his shoulder worked out, which has been troubling him this year.

hopefully he can have a big pre season, as i think he is definitely an important depth player to the team.

He is slow, but he's also a good footballer.

He was playing well before he hurt his hand, and he had a game busting 5 minutes yesterday.

Has a determination about him that will see him continue to improve. As mentioned, how much he can improve will determine how long he's around.

A big preseason will help.

I also thought he was slow but on the club website his bio reads as follows:

The lively speedster struggled in his second season, battling to overcome a groin injury at the start of 2010 and found himself in the VFL later in the year. Missed the first eight games, played the next six but was confined to VFL duties after that. Has great pace and excellent skills through the middle of the ground

I think that it possibly indicates that he just doesn't have a big enough tank at the moment to maintain a high speed for much game time at all. Hopefully after a big preseason we will be able to see his said speed showcased.

he will have a bit of an interupted start to the pre season, from what i hear he will be going under the knife after next week, and having his shoulder worked out, which has been troubling him this year.

hopefully he can have a big pre season, as i think he is definitely an important depth player to the team.

Next week, hopeless, too soon. We should be doing the right thing by ALL Involved for the finals.

The Sooner they make the VFL start Earlier & Finish @ least 2 weeks before the AFL Grand final the better!

Theres our pre season comp right there, just needs tweeking!

Just a point on Nev's lack of speed, they guy he was running ahead of to gather the ball for his goal was Harbrow, who as we all know is really slow then he palmed him off and ran away from him.

Just one more point on coaching, Nev and Tapscott spent the game on Harbrow and pantsed him, he had no influence whatsoever, it is not the amount of touches you have if you are playing your role