Spencer may become a decent 1st choice ruckman, but Gawn will be a better 1st choice ruckman.

hahahaha ... yeah right. But as I said what we think is irrelevant. We are biased.

They are interested in Gawn ... you keep whoever you want because you think he "may become a decent 1st choice ruckman"

You sound so convincing ... other clubs are not stupid. In any trade their is two parties. In the real world, the only way we will move Spencer on this year is for next to nothing, assuming we are only using 3 draft picks is this weak draft. Oh ... yes and we would probably have to cop some of his salary as well.

But yes .... its going to be simple ... you are dreaming!!!

Edited July 13, 201114 yr by hangon007

There is more teams other than Richmond with a shortage of Ruckman

Ruck Stocks

Keep

Jamar

Martin

Gawn

Fitzpatrick

Campbell

Trade Bait

Spencer

Delist

Newton

The only other Tall we might have trouble keeping is Warnock

Spencer is not genuine "trade bait" ... I cant see any other club being interested after a knee reco.

The only possibly genuine trade bait would be Jamar, Martin & Gawn ... but we would & should not be interested.

Edited July 13, 201114 yr by hangon007

hahahaha ... yeah right. But as I said what we think is irrelevant. We are biased.

They are interested in Gawn ... you keep whoever you want because you think he "may become a decent 1st choice ruckman"

You sound so convincing ... other clubs are not stupid. In any trade their is two parties. In the real world, the only way we will move Spencer on this year is for next to nothing, assuming we are only using 3 draft picks is this weak draft. Oh ... yes and we would probably have to cop some of his salary as well.

But yes .... its going to be simple ... you are dreaming!!!

Where is the bias?

You act as if I'm trying to convince you or someone of something.

I simply think that both of Gawn and Spencer have the capacity to become decent first choice ruckmen, and that Gawn will be better, so he is the one we want to keep.

Other clubs don't have to be stupid. If they are desperate for a ruckman, they can have Spencer - at a price.

If they don't want him - good on them. They can look elsewhere.

You underestimate the value of a good ruckman and how other clubs would view his potential and worth.

What's simple and obvious is that you need some practice in reading others' posts accurately.

Lets trade Gawn for Miller.

yeah be good to Pia Miller back at the club

Can I just ask - on SEN they were talking about Max having not yet signed a contract when DB was on last night. Confirm that he in fact has signed til 2013?

Lets trade Gawn for Miller.

You truly are a stirrer- fit into the same catagory as me..

Where is the bias?

You act as if I'm trying to convince you or someone of something.

I simply think that both of Gawn and Spencer have the capacity to become decent first choice ruckmen, and that Gawn will be better, so he is the one we want to keep.

Other clubs don't have to be stupid. If they are desperate for a ruckman, they can have Spencer - at a price.

If they don't want him - good on them. They can look elsewhere.

You underestimate the value of a good ruckman and how other clubs would view his potential and worth.

What's simple and obvious is that you need some practice in reading others' posts accurately.

Again you miss the point. Its all about ease of getting the "trade" done. Time after time it is you who displays your complete lack of knowledge about the system.

a/ Its not "tricky" & b/ If they are desperate for a ruckman, they can have Spencer - at a price.

What again is even more painfully obvious.

a/ You cant demonstrate the ability to negotiate in the "real world".

b/ You have no ability to asses the true ability of the players from both sides of the trade.

c/ You have no appreciation of the complete complex nature of your very own argument.

d/ You demonstrate time after time a simplistic onside approach to everything in the trading and drafting process.

f/ You talk with no logical overall strategy .... combined with the fact you have no ability to outline and compare the current draft or trading situations.

d/ You just consistently fail to understand where the real power lies in the whole drafting and trading process.

You are not alone around here. However, you are a wordsmith. Good on you.

Can I just ask - on SEN they were talking about Max having not yet signed a contract when DB was on last night. Confirm that he in fact has signed til 2013?

Are you saying this is what DB said?? he has signed an extension?

Are you saying this is what DB said?? he has signed an extension?

I'm not saying that - I was under the impression from various posting on here that Max had signed a 2year extension, but according to the interview they were chatting as if he hasn't.

Again you miss the point. Its all about ease of getting the "trade" done. Time after time it is you who displays your complete lack of knowledge about the system.

a/ Its not "tricky" & b/ If they are desperate for a ruckman, they can have Spencer - at a price.

What again is even more painfully obvious.

a/ You cant demonstrate the ability to negotiate in the "real world".

b/ You have no ability to asses the true ability of the players from both sides of the trade.

c/ You have no appreciation of the complete complex nature of your very own argument.

d/ You demonstrate time after time a simplistic onside approach to everything in the trading and drafting process.

f/ You talk with no logical overall strategy .... combined with the fact you have no ability to outline and compare the current draft or trading situations.

d/ You just consistently fail to understand where the real power lies in the whole drafting and trading process.

You are not alone around here. However, you are a wordsmith. Good on you.

Your posts aren't referring to anything I'm talking about, and you seem to be unable to grasp what I'm saying, so there is no issue of 'lack of knowledge'.

Once again, from now on you will be ignored in this thread.

Someone else can respond to your gobbledigook.

Edited July 13, 201114 yr by Nasher

Salary cap pressure ?

If any club is under salary cap pressure it's Collingwood and Carlton .... not us .

Yes, salary cap pressure.

The others (Power clubs) have they're ways of getting buys, don't they.

Edited July 13, 201114 yr by dee-luded

Yes, salary cap pressure.

The others (Power clubs) have they're ways of getting buy, don't they.

The others don't have a salary cap, let alone salary cap pressure...

......getting buys......

!!!????

Getting buys ??!!?

Like, going shopping??