On 24/06/2011 at 03:27, Roost It said:

GWS only have to give Richmond first pick in the preseason draft. Done Deal

Wrong again.

PSD picks are not tradeable.

Any more?

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:34, Artie Bucco said:

Wrong again.

PSD picks are not tradeable.

Any more?

Nah that's it.

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:33, hangon007 said:

OMG ... thats a massive shift. Now you want to talk about probabilities combined with some of the possibilities. Thats a whole new thread my friend.

I've said something similar before & I will say it again. Sorry we must all just wait and see how the season unfolds. B)

I'm here to discuss what the reasons are he may elect to choose that route ... and I will say it again. You only have to look at the views of some of the so called "supporters" of the MFC in this forum & not necessarily exclusively on the topic of Tom Scully. Again thats not a criticism of the forum that values free speech.

Hutchy got it wrong, he only got half the story. I merely pointed that out. If you want to shoot the messenger fine by me ...

I will let people think what they want to think, I'm not here to change that.

hahahahahaha [censored] poor effort.

No massive shift - I want to talk possibilities so I can prove to you how it cannot happen.

You don't seem to have considered the implications of what you're saying.

And now, you're ducking and weaving some more, talking in riddles.

Nice try.

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:36, Roost It said:

Nah that's it.

I just don't see how Richmond could get him, without our compliance, even if he desperately wants to go there.

There's not another option where it could work for him to get to Richmond in 2012.

Honestly, I am open to suggestions, and if someone can come up with a solution that would work, I'll be very impressed.

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:33, hangon007 said:

OMG ... thats a massive shift. Now you want to talk about probabilities combined with some of the possibilities. Thats a whole new thread my friend.

I've said something similar before & I will say it again. Sorry we must all just wait and see how the season unfolds. B)

I'm here to discuss what the reasons are he may elect to choose that route ... and I will say it again. You only have to look at the views of some of the so called "supporters" of the MFC in this forum & not necessarily exclusively on the topic of Tom Scully. Again thats not a criticism of the forum that values free speech.

Hutchy got it wrong, he only got half the story. I merely pointed that out. If you want to shoot the messenger fine by me ...

I will let people think what they want to think, I'm not here to change that.

So you don't want to talk about how he will get there, and you have given no reasons why he wants to go there, and you don't seem to have any other information about the move. I thought all made up rumours would be deleted in this thread??

I cant believe I just read all of that, I need to get an appointment with a shrink.

Can we all take a few pills and relax?

I look forward to the game tomorrow.

BTW Scully is one hundred per cent professional, some might say too much so for his own good (witness his knee from over training) but I think that means we will see him giving his all for the MFC.

As for the future well we will find that out in due course.

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:39, Artie Bucco said:

I just don't see how Richmond could get him, without our compliance, even if he desperately wants to go there.

There's not another option where it could work for him to get to Richmond in 2012.

Honestly, I am open to suggestions, and if someone can come up with a solution that would work, I'll be very impressed.

I'm done. I thought GWS could on trade Scully to Richmond or use their preseason pick.

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:33, hangon007 said:

If you want to shoot the messenger fine by me ...

You're not a messenger.

This is all hypothetical BS.

You are embarrasing yourself - and you still have not outlined how you think Tom gets to the Tigers.

Sure, it could happen but the possibility of it occuring is low and the probability lower.

It's like this: the majority of Demonland could think of HO007 as a rational poster.

Sure, it could happen but...

So give Land your hypothesis on how Tom gets to Richmond and we can all soak in the insightfully complex machinations...

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:12, Artie Bucco said:

There are 3 ways, to my knowledge - if there are others, please let me know how.

1. MELBOURNE trades SCULLY to RICHMOND (either in a direct trade or a 3-team or 4-team deal).

2. SCULLY enters the NATIONAL DRAFT and GWS and other teams inexplicably don't draft him before RICHMOND get their first pick.

3. SCULLY enters the PRESEASON DRAFT and GWS and other teams inexplicably don't draft him before RICHMOND get their first pick.

That's correct and in points 2 & 3 a player who nominates for either draft and "nominates football payments" i.e. a compulsory contract amount, has to do so for "a minumum of two years". Therefore the player would be going to the club that picked him up for TWO YEARS and to get past GWS the player would have to nominate a contract amount over two years that GWS couldn't afford but Richmond could. Going into the draft isn't going to get him to Richmond - it's going to get him to GWS (or the Suns or Port Adelaide or all the clubs which have a pick before Richmond) for 2 years.

It's a destructive fantasy.

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:49, Thomo said:

So you don't want to talk about how he will get there, and you have given no reasons why he wants to go there, and you don't seem to have any other information about the move. I thought all made up rumours would be deleted in this thread??

I have given 1 of the reasons ... I only point out that Hutchy got it wrong, he only got half the story right. However, think the penny is also dropping for the offline media.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:23, hangon007 said:

I have given 1 of the reasons ... I only point out that Hutchy got it wrong, he only got half the story right. However, think the penny is also dropping for the offline media.

Care to be more specific?

You're so vague you could be talking about the situation in Iraq.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:20, tatu said:

WOW This is full-on, this rumour really has taken off . Next week i'm gonna start a rumour that Tom wants to go to the Western Bulldogs....

No crazy credits for you I'm afraid.

This was started many months ago in the dark, deep recesses of HO007's brain...

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:57, rpfc said:

You're not a messenger.

This is all hypothetical BS.

You are embarrasing yourself - and you still have not outlined how you think Tom gets to the Tigers.

No problems.

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:57, rpfc said:

Sure, it could happen but the possibility of it occuring is low and the probability lower.

Another one who has moved from the possible to now declaring the probabilities "low."

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:57, rpfc said:

It's like this: the majority of Demonland could think of HO007 as a rational poster.

Sure, it could happen but...

I also have my views some Demonland posters but I will keep them to myself.

  On 24/06/2011 at 03:57, rpfc said:

So give Land your hypothesis on how Tom gets to Richmond and we can all soak in the insightfully complex machinations...

Not what I'm here to discuss & sorry to disappoint you.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:32, hangon007 said:

Not what I'm here to discuss & sorry to disappoint you.

hahahahaha

what the hell do you think you're discussing then?

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:27, Artie Bucco said:

Care to be more specific?

You're so vague you could be talking about the situation in Iraq.

You only have to look at the views of some of the so called "supporters" of the MFC in this forum & not necessarily exclusively on the topic of Tom Scully. Again thats not a criticism of the forum that values free speech.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:34, hangon007 said:

You only have to look at the views of some of the so called "supporters" of the MFC in this forum & not necessarily exclusively on the topic of Tom Scully. Again thats not a criticism of the forum that values free speech.

It's ironic that you think the speculation of Demonland members is destructive, and may give reason for Scully to leave, when your posts are fuelling the fire.

Anyhow.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:23, hangon007 said:

I have given 1 of the reasons ... I only point out that Hutchy got it wrong, he only got half the story right. However, think the penny is also dropping for the offline media.

OK so I'm either really dumb, or you make no sense.

Please tell me firstly what is this Hutchy story you keep talking about, then please explain in specific details what half he got wrong, and what is the right info that you have which makes you think he will possibly go to Richmond?

Either outline these things or go away.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:32, hangon007 said:

No problems.

Another one who has moved from the possible to now declaring the probabilities "low."

I also have my views some Demonland posters but I will keep them to myself.

Not what I'm here to discuss & sorry to disappoint you.

You didn't even see my rhetorical flourish?!

Anything is possible. Even posters taking you seriously... Didn't quite get there, I see.

My stuff is wasted on here sometimes.

I guess I could go over to BF like Hannabal but that would be shooting in an even less populated barrel of fish...

And the reason you haven't posited your hypothesis on how Tom gets to the Tigers is because you obviouly realise that it is such a remote possibility that discussing it in depth would make you look foolish.

  On 24/06/2011 at 02:07, old55 said:

How to play the flute:

Blow in one end and move your fingers up and down on the outside

"Thanks Jackie....That was Great"

For Tom to get to Richmond would require the Tigers trade for GWS No#1 pick (if they are allowed) and Tom nominated to go into the Draft. Tom would then be the No#1 draft pick x 2 which would be funny, and the tigers would be minus Martin or Cotchin or Riewoldt and looking like a pack of idiots...

Tom will stay and play for the Demons.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:34, Artie Bucco said:

hahahahaha

what the hell do you think you're discussing then?

You read but you dont want to listen. No problems.

I've say it again one last time. This story originate from "idle" speculation from Hutchy that TS was going to GWS.

I said that was not true, based on Hutchy bitter and twisted beliefs. He only got half the story right.

Tom actually comes out and states ... "I have never spoke to GWS & signed nothing" ...

I merely pointed out back in November our number 1 threat was melbourne based club ....

Now the media is jumping onboard. .... mmmm!!!

But I wont, sorry to upset you (frustrate you), discuss anything else. 100% constant with what I said back then. Just like Tom is asking you to wait and see. I hear the frustration but such is life.

However, I will stress I hope Tom stays. But I would never be arrogant enough to scream its us or GWS ... leave for the money then.

Sorry I have faith in Tom.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:53, why you little said:

"Thanks Jackie....That was Great"

Alan will be over in Moscow showing us how to reconcile the Russians and the Chinese. So, until next week, cheerio.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:56, hangon007 said:

But I wont, sorry to upset you (frustrate you), discuss anything else.

If that's the case then please drop this line of discussion, because it's even more circular than the general Scully back and forth. Thanks.

  On 24/06/2011 at 04:55, PaulRB said:

the tigers would be minus Martin or Cotchin or Riewoldt and looking like a pack of idiots...

Tom will stay and play for the Demons.

Martin Cotchin Riewoldt ... are all contracted & going no where. All are contracted out of the reach of GWS involvement.

Well, if HO007 thinks it irrelevant and the mods agree...

Let's do this dance again and start a new Scully thread.

Scully thread mach #4!!

Engage.

(You're a loser if you got that reference...)