Sounds like it all fell apart when Bate went in...any idea who he subbed in for?

I've heard of people reading too much into practice matches before - but not so much from people who didn't even see the game!

I've heard of people reading too much into practice matches before - but not so much from people who didn't even see the game!

I do not need to see the game.

Only one thing matters Hawthorn won we lost end of story!

Care Factor..........ZERO

Self defence mechanism

I do not need to see the game.

Only one thing matters Hawthorn won we lost end of story!

That's at odds with what the Clubs usually say. "It's all about the process. If we do the little things right, the wins will come." Only one thing may matter to you, but as long as you're not in charge of the process, I'm happy. If you were, then we'd really be in trouble.

That's at odds with what the Clubs usually say. "It's all about the process. If we do the little things right, the wins will come." Only one thing may matter to you, but as long as you're not in charge of the process, I'm happy. If you were, then we'd really be in trouble.

So in which year does winning games become important?

I have watched the process for 44 years it has not produced a flag yet?

What if the process is wrong?

How long do I hang my hat on the "process" I have watched this latest "process" for three years. has it another year to go two years to go?

is 2014 the year i can start worrying about winning?

any idea?

Gee that makes March 27 look enjoyable I wonder how "process" will play that day.

Glad you pointed it out too me now I can enjoy the game knowing it is all about the "process"

I realise you are frustrated but...

So in which year does winning games become important?

I know you're being flippant but for those knew to accomplishing anything - the process involves getting to the accomplishment, it is the making of it - literally.

I have watched the process for 44 years it has not produced a flag yet?

As Melbourne supporters - we know that as it was, it will always be.

And that those currently involved at the club are to blame for the past decades of failure.

What if the process is wrong?

How long do I hang my hat on the "process" I have watched this latest "process" for three years. has it another year to go two years to go?

is 2014 the year i can start worrying about winning?

any idea?

Winning will come when the pieces of the process are adhered to;

- when the forwards pressure

- when the midfield presents, runs, and takes risks

- when the defence is bold, confident, and applied all over the ground

And I would take issue with any intimation that we haven't improved since 2008. As one of many who went each week back then - there is little comparison...

Except for the process that Bailey wants the team to adhere to.

Gee that makes March 27 look enjoyable I wonder how "process" will play that day.

Glad you pointed it out too me now I can enjoy the game knowing it is all about the "process"

The process was shown to be working in the corresponding fixture in 2010 when we destroyed the Swans at the MCG.

The players know it, and are capable, and the can win when they do what is expected of them.

But they are young, and developing, and, perhaps, just not good enough to be apart of it long term.

I can assure you - the process won't change, but the results will.

Was just wondering, does anyone here know if Cam Bruce copped it from the Melbourne players?

Just out of idle curiosity, and this can only be directed to the few that actually saw the game, did it appear to any that there was indeed some rudimentary practicing of "drills" Ie as though theyd been instructed to persist with a particular style or play regardless of effect. To keep at it regardless of outcome as though experimental. The game to this observer ( or not as it was ) seemed very much of two halves.

Thoughts ??