Good to hear you are now backing down on Gysberts ... but sad to see you wont give Blease a go.

Ahhhh well suppose 1 out of 2 aint bad.

You still clearly have no idea.

No one has backtracked.

I also would keep Gysberts, but we now have the benefit of having seen him perform at AFL level.

I have great trust in our football dept, but you miss the point that 45 put so eloquently:

you trade an established A grader for a mid 1st round pick that hasn't played an AFL game, any day of the week.

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

Obviously if you have other information that tells you the player will be much better, then you take that into account.

Just keep twisting words to try to come out on top.

One day you might convince someone.

Blease & Gysberts have shown nothing yet & could be busts.

If you traded them for Boak it would be an absolute win.

Nothing guarantees Blease or Gysberts will be as good, so I'd do a straight up swap in a heartbeat.

You still clearly have no idea.

No one has backtracked.

I also would keep Gysberts, but we now have the benefit of having seen him perform at AFL level.

I have great trust in our football dept, but you miss the point that 45 put so eloquently:

you trade an established A grader for a mid 1st round pick that hasn't played an AFL game, any day of the week.

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.

Obviously if you have other information that tells you the player will be much better, then you take that into account.

Just keep twisting words to try to come out on top.

One day you might convince someone.

Why don't these comments surprise me coming from you. But I can see the irony ... again.

Sorry but I've twisted nothing! I'm only quoting what you & your mate said.

Both of you where prepared to trade before you had seen them play ... LMAO

Look it good you now got Gysberts off the table. but sorry I cant agree with ... "you trade an established A grader for a mid 1st round pick that hasn't played an AFL game, any day of the week. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush."

All depends on what you thought of the two in the "bush" and what you would have to pay for the "bird"?

Edited June 9, 201015 yr by hangon007

Why are we trading for more small players? I really don't get you guys.

Gray has resigned, and Boak...he might not even crack the best 22 with Scully, Trengove, Gysberts, McKenzie, Blease, Tapscott, Davey etc.

We need talls. Seems like you guys want smalls.

agreed!

even though i would love to have him in the team i dont think we need him as much with the likes of our younger mids.

i think if we should be going for anyone it should be a mature aged, big and tall forward to help watts and give us a target

Edited June 9, 201015 yr by armstrong35

Why are we trading for more small players? I really don't get you guys.

Gray has resigned, and Boak...he might not even crack the best 22 with Scully, Trengove, Gysberts, McKenzie, Blease, Tapscott, Davey etc.

We need talls. Seems like you guys want smalls.

Boak is currently a very, very good player with every chance of becoming elite. You can't have too many of that type of player.

Blease and Tapscott haven't played a game. McKenzie is a hard worker but doesn't have the speed or class of Boak and Davey is very outside. There is a reason he's asking for $450k a year - because he's worth it. He uses the ball better than Moloney and Jones, and has 3 years more development than Scully, Trengove and Gysberts.

I think players who play interstate often get underrated because we don't see or hear of them as often. Geelong evidently rated him ahead of Joel Selwood when they drafted him, and while he has probably dropped below Selwood now, it's not by a long way.

Boak is currently a very, very good player with every chance of becoming elite. You can't have too many of that type of player.

Blease and Tapscott haven't played a game. McKenzie is a hard worker but doesn't have the speed or class of Boak and Davey is very outside. There is a reason he's asking for $450k a year - because he's worth it. He uses the ball better than Moloney and Jones, and has 3 years more development than Scully, Trengove and Gysberts.

I think players who play interstate often get underrated because we don't see or hear of them as often. Geelong evidently rated him ahead of Joel Selwood when they drafted him, and while he has probably dropped below Selwood now, it's not by a long way.

He's a very good player, & when he was in the TAC cup he was reputed to have a great tank as well. Very interesting but I think i'd rather Dangerfield out of them.

Heard this morning on SEN that both Boak and Gray have refused to sign new contracts at Port and are looking around, we are one of the clubs that have supposedly expressed interest. It would appear that one of the more powerful clubs has indicated they don't have room in their salary cap, Boak wants $450k per year, so they have had to pass.

They mentioned that there was something about this in the HUN and The Age but I can't find any related articles.

Here is The Age article on Boak

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/port-star-in-high-demand-20100505-uaml.html

Another one from The Age

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/why-the-bombers-need-to-make-a-play-for-boak-20100505-uamm.html

It possibly couldnt happen with all the great players they have an would be limited with salary. But i can tell you now, being friends with travis. and went to school with him, he went for the blues as a kid. and is unterested in joining them. but you never know, id love to have boaky in our 22.

Boak for Cale Morton

seriously.. u guys have no brains at all

fill us in with your opinion...

Boak for Cale Morton

Fool.

Morton ain't going nowhere. He is all class and will be perfect as a running defender / wing in the years to come with silky skills, a good mark and great decision making.

Gray is injury prone and exactly what we already have plenty of- medium sized mid/fwd. No doubt he is talented but wait till you see Melbourne's version next year- Luke Tapscott. Boak is a good midfielder but have a look at our list- we don't need him.

Bottom line, give up nothing. Petterd is going but that won't matter so much in the long term- we'll probably get a second or thrid round pick as compensation.

What's our biggest problem. A lack of big blokes. Use the first two trades on the best available big KPP and add that to Watts, Fitzpatrick, Gawn, Jamar, Martin, frawley, Warnock and others and we will have a complete team.

I see parallels with Morton and Goddard.

When Morton bulks up (when, not if) he will be a force.

I see parallels with Morton and Goddard.

When Morton bulks up (when, not if) he will be a force.

When Goddard first started playing AFL he wouldn't get near a contest and even now he doesn't seem to relish body contact but it hasn't stopped him from becoming a very good player. I agree with you, I reckon Cale will be a similar type who will control the backline and every now and then go forward when needed.