ON a another topic I wrote this about McKenzie, why he did not go to the crows, when i posted this same said that the crows list of 2010 was no nothing like the dees list of 2007, what do people think now about my post on the crows list.

JM knocked back the crows offer, because he could see what I could see, about the crows and the dees, the crows are in the same position the dees where in 2007 in the start of that year lots of people predicted that the Dees where a flag fav,But we had a few injuries, and our good player became old over night, white yze and co all lost it at the same time, when you looked at our list that year it was full of 30 plus players, lot of experience, but we had 14 player had post season operation after 2006.

So when you have an advanced list like we had that year it only takes a poor preseason for it to all full to pieces, if you look at the Crows list of today and the dees list of 2007 you will find lots of similarities, i looked at the crows list, they have three players that are 33 years and over, McLeod,Edwards,Goodwin, these three players are in the crows best 10 player, you cant relay on that many player in you top 10 being over the age os 33, also Burton is 31 coming of a knee, very few player do a knee at his age and play for every long afterwards. They have had a bad preseason, with injuries and they only beat as after the siren in the preseason, we should beat them next week if we play like we did with the mags. NOW JM could see the dees having the best list in two years time, and the crows will lose all three player McLeod Goodwin and Edwards at seasons end and maybe Burton as well, this will leave a huge hole in there list, and they will get no help from the drift in the next two seasons, with the two new teams coming in. If we beat them this week Craig might have no choice but to use the rebuild word, and yes they do have few good young players, also i think that Craig has been exposed in his game plan, which relays heavily in being fit, when the crows look at drafting players they look at a player engine first, if a player does not have that engine level when they are drafted then the crows will not pick them, so because the crows game plan is on hard running and since the have had a poor pre season, Too many of there players have not got the runn in there legs in there preseason, there list is underdone, and if you do not have that fitness level, to play Craig game plan then the crows have no game plan at all.

NOW JM is a smart man, and he will be a every good player, Craig is a very good judge of players, he makes very few mistakes in drafting, so If anyone can spot a good player it is Neil Craig. IT's just he has not made the hard decision on his playing list, with all the older players in his side, he needed to move on a few older players,but they where still in his top 10 so he could not bring himself the make these hard decision. This could bee the begin of the end with Neil unless he can make these decision on his own. Now JM is our replacement for junior

NOW JM is a smart man, and he will be a every good player, Craig is a very good judge of players, he makes very few mistakes in drafting, so If anyone can spot a good player it is Neil Craig. IT's just he has not made the hard decision on his playing list, with all the older players in his side, he needed to move on a few older players,but they where still in his top 10 so he could not bring himself the make these hard decision. This could bee the begin of the end with Neil unless he can make these decision on his own. Now JM is our replacement for junior

It's easy to say Craig's made a blunder by holding on to McLeod, Goodwin, Edwards and Burton, but in reality three of those 4 had decent seasons last year (Burton being injured). Goodwin was AA, was he not?

Regardless, the reason they're struggling as much as they are right now is because a lot of their team was injured in the pre-season, and thus aren't fully fit. They're going to take time to get to full fitness, and since they've copped a fair few injuries already in 2010 their season's not in a good place right now.

This OP is just as wrong as when you wrote it a few days ago in another thread.

You tipped nothing.

It's easy to say Craig's made a blunder by holding on to McLeod, Goodwin, Edwards and Burton, but in reality three of those 4 had decent seasons last year (Burton being injured). Goodwin was AA, was he not?

Regardless, the reason they're struggling as much as they are right now is because a lot of their team was injured in the pre-season, and thus aren't fully fit. They're going to take time to get to full fitness, and since they've copped a fair few injuries already in 2010 their season's not in a good place right now.

if you read whole post, i mention that they had a bad preseason just like the dees had in 2007 and many of our older players had good seasons in 2006.

I doubt Jordie chose not to move because of his interpretations of the relative merits of our lists going forward.

There would have been many more reasons to stay that would have been in his mind above that. After watching the team song I get the feeling he is well liked in the club.

if you read whole post, i mention that they had a bad preseason just like the dees had in 2007 and many of our older players had good seasons in 2006.

Cant see the similarity, while the crows have some ageing players there is a great group of kids to continue there growth. They have 14 injuries or there abouts, you cant expect them to perform. They will be fine once they get them all back but that might not happen this year.

Unless you posted it last year, that's an observation, not a prediction. But it's true, nonetheless.

Cant see the similarity, while the crows have some ageing players there is a great group of kids to continue there growth. They have 14 injuries or there abouts, you cant expect them to perform. They will be fine once they get them all back but that might not happen this year.

good young players look good when they have champions playing with them, mcleod, Goodwin, Edwards will not play next year, and they are in the best 5 players for the crows, there young players are over rated and will fall fast, just wait a year or two.

good young players look good when they have champions playing with them, mcleod, Goodwin, Edwards will not play next year, and they are in the best 5 players for the crows, there young players are over rated and will fall fast, just wait a year or two.

Dangerfield and Tippet to name a few, are not overrated.

Dangerfield and Tippet to name a few, are not overrated.

ok they have two good young players, oh that will keep them up in the 8

ok they have two good young players, oh that will keep them up in the 8

Oh no it won't. The only good young Crows are Dangerfield, Vince, Rutten, Tippett and Porplyzia. And Thompson's getting on a bit I think. I rate them about the same as the Sydney of last year - great experience, but no youth.

Oh no it won't. The only good young Crows are Dangerfield, Vince, Rutten, Tippett and Porplyzia. And Thompson's getting on a bit I think. I rate them about the same as the Sydney of last year - great experience, but no youth.

Rutten is 26. Don't realy think he's part of their youth.

We made an epic tumble in 2007. We were essentially the best chance of bringing the cup back to Melbourne.

http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/7415/Default.aspx?newsId=38807

I remember reading an article in the age that had us as favourite.

How it all changed so quickly!