Once again, I REPEAT...

PJ, Bell and Newton ARE contracted for 2010. Unfortunate as it may be, but thems the breaks.

Unless the club can manufacture a trade of these players, there is almost zero chance of them being delisted at years end.

We're currently running a massive debt demolition campaign for the 2nd year in a row, and people want to pay out contracts? FFS

Came third in the B+F in 2007.

Has done extremely well for a forward in the worst team in the league, that gets the fewest Inside 50s in the league.

Has the most goals and equal in assists with Davey.

You, and others, have made a snap judgement on a poor 2008 and a few games early this season and have completely missed the very good form of a player whose value will increase as Watts, Jurrah, and Wonaeamirri become more prominent. He, as he showed on Sunday, can still have a run in the middle and be effective.

Sticking to snap judgements would have meant that Garland wouldn't have returned to the side after being dropped in early 2008...

If that doesn't give you pause nothing will...

Point taken but I just don't see him as a premiership winning forward.

Point taken but I just don't see him as a premiership winning forward.

hes a premiership flanker, that can kick the pill 60mtrs.

Im with you there,i think he has been 1 of our standouts this year & think hes the type of player who just needs a big experienced forward around him.He needs to just play off the HFF & not be asked to be FF or CHF.He has the best hands by a mile at the club & along with Sylvia is the only 1 that can constantly kick from outside 50.Has a great leg & can jump.I think in a few years he will regularly be kicking around the 50 goals per season

Also has no agility, runs on roller skates, takes short steps and second efforts just don't happen.

Spencer is in the RL.

You cannot delist the unlisted.

Also has no agility, runs on roller skates, takes short steps and second efforts just don't happen.

your kidding, bates part of the future, wait to the centres firing, you have no idea, he can bomb a goal from 50MTRS.

your kidding, bates part of the future, wait to the centres firing, you have no idea, he can bomb a goal from 50MTRS.

I really hope he does as much as you do. But until he grabs the bull by the horns, his on thin ice just like many others.

I stand by the negatives in his game. They far outway the positives at this stage.

Once again, I REPEAT...

PJ, Bell and Newton ARE contracted for 2010. Unfortunate as it may be, but thems the breaks.

Unless the club can manufacture a trade of these players, there is almost zero chance of them being delisted at years end.

We're currently running a massive debt demolition campaign for the 2nd year in a row, and people want to pay out contracts? FFS

Hmmm.

Very, very tough situation.

Who was the genius who contracted Newton for next year???

Some very clever trading may be required.

You are kidding right? can't find 5-7 players to get rid of??? There is a reason why we are last on the ladder. Off the top of my head players like Bartram, Bell, Buckley, Johnson, McDonald (retire), Miller, Newton, Robertson, Spencer, Wheatley and Whelan (retire) will consider themselves lucky to be on our list next year. There's 11 right there and Valenti should be promoted from the rookie list.

There's still a lot of old and dead wood that needs to be shipped out before we become more than an average side, as we can't afford to have too many passengers on our list. All of the above, besides the proposed retirees are just that. That is still a quarter of our entire list that is not up to scratch.

Very harsh, think he has shown enough this year to indicate he will be a good player for the MFC, should be groomed as a clinton jones-type tagger. Still has much to offer.

Bit stiff on buckley also, hasnt had the opportunity to back up a promising 08 season

Rest are valid

Hmmm.

Very, very tough situation.

Who was the genius who contracted Newton for next year???

Some very clever trading may be required.

No idea but it was a major brain fade, most average mfc player iv seen since chris heffernan. Plays like he doesnt care

I really hope he does as much as you do. But until he grabs the bull by the horns, his on thin ice just like many others.

I stand by the negatives in his game. They far outway the positives at this stage.

No he's not.

You may want him to be.

But he is very highly rated by those down at the Junction.

And "Premiership winning forward?"

Steven Armstrong is a PWF.

Game. Set. Match.

No he's not.

You may want him to be.

But he is very highly rated by those down at the Junction.

And "Premiership winning forward?"

Steven Armstrong is a PWF.

Game. Set. Match.

zing!

Bate is in our best 10 players at the moment and the B+F will reflect this. I know that's fairly faint praise given how rubbish we are at present, but I reckon it's a long way off the mark to suggest he's on thin ice.

Lets get serious on trade talk!

Throw up something realistic!

Bate and Valenti to Sydney for Pick 8 or thereabouts.

I dont think Miller has much currency. But i do think Sydney would be interested.

But could try Miller and Valenti for Pick 8 and possibly a swap of 3rd round picks.

I would be looking at;

Pick 1. Scully

Pick 2. Trengove

Pick 8. Panos, Tapscott

Pick 18. Panos, Tapscott, Jetta

Pick 42. Michael Smith I think it is. Sydney get our Pick 34 for there 42.

A 26 year old who cannot find a spot in the 16th team in the league and a rookie list player for pick 8?

Seriously, I've heard everything now. I've ticked that off the list and can now retire.

I will put it out there again:

If you supported another club, which MFC player would you want?

A 26 year old who cannot find a spot in the 16th team in the league and a rookie list player for pick 8?

Seriously, I've heard everything now. I've ticked that off the list and can now retire.

I will put it out there again:

If you supported another club, which MFC player would you want?

Jack Grimes or Colin Slyvia!

Grimes is going to be exceptional and Sylvia is about to burst!

Lets get serious on trade talk!

Throw up something realistic!

But could try Miller and Valenti for Pick 8 and possibly a swap of 3rd round picks.

Were you going for irony?

And we can't trade Valenti. He's on the RL.

So, Grimes and Sylvia are the only two MFC players that you would be interested in, yet you offer a trade of MILLER and VALENTI to acquire a first round pick?

Lets get serious on trade talk!

Throw up something realistic!

Bate and Valenti to Sydney for Pick 8 or thereabouts.

I dont think Miller has much currency. But i do think Sydney would be interested.

But could try Miller and Valenti for Pick 8 and possibly a swap of 3rd round picks.

Anyone else see the irony here? I thought you said you wanted to get into some serious trade talk!

I'm seriously not sure if you're being sarcastic, Dee tention? Really.

Haha beat me to it, rpfc

So, Grimes and Sylvia are the only two MFC players that you would be interested in, yet you offer a trade of MILLER and VALENTI to acquire a first round pick?

You tend to trade players you dont want or have similiar of. Bate, Miller, Valenti etc.

It has been rumoured Sydney are looking at Valenti and possibly Miller. Bate is young and would fit into there side also.

So did you want me to offer Grimes and Sylvia?

Please tell me you're joking.

The only two players that other team's would be interested in, you wouldn't offer up as a trade.

Why then would a team give up a first round pick for garbage?

Anyone else see the irony here? I thought you said you wanted to get into some serious trade talk!

I'm seriously not sure if you're being sarcastic, Dee tention? Really.

I was being more realistic with Bate and Valenti!

More hoping they might be silly enough with Miller and Valenti.

What would you throw up for a Pick 8 if Sydney would trade?

the players other teams would like from our list. in no order

watts

davey

jurrah

sylvia

grimes

aussie

green

maybe rivers at a pinch if someone lacked a tall defender.

i wouldnt trade frawley, although he might be in the same boat as rivers - someone might want him if they wanted a young full back.

IMHO all those players are OFF the trade list. big time.

anyone else they can trade away - except those drafter in the last 2 years. if someone is dumb enough to trade for them.

[censored], id take pick 63 for miller. and pick 112 for bruce.

Bate and Miller and exchange of 3rd round Picks for Bulldogs Pick 14 or thereabouts? Is that realistic?