On Foxsports League teams last Thursday/Friday, Ray Shaw was reviewing Melbourne's progress.

"Jamar has been pretty good since he came back from injury, although he was very quiet last week against Sydney"

Pretty hard to have an impact on the game from his loungeroom.

Why do we assume quality comes with fame. Somebody must have worked the magnet board at Bucksland when Shawy was coach.

Adds fuel to the Malthouse angle on life that you only know something about anything IF you have played AFL.

:wacko:

Australian TV should take notice of how they do it in the U.S.

The best special comments men on US Sports were often very ordinairy players. Even less than ordinary in some cases. But the networks hire them on the basis that they know the game and can make keen observations, rather than just being some big name with a great playing record who has trouble stitching two sentences together. There are exceptions, but for the most part, they hire the best men for the job and the job being, making special comments and analysis. Not just playing on their name.

Australian TV should take notice of how they do it in the U.S.

The best special comments men on US Sports were often very ordinairy players. Even less than ordinary in some cases. But the networks hire them on the basis that they know the game and can make keen observations, rather than just being some big name with a great playing record who has trouble stitching two sentences together. There are exceptions, but for the most part, they hire the best men for the job and the job being, making special comments and analysis. Not just playing on their name.

Possibly also because the fringe players get paid a (relative) pittance and still want to live the high life after their playing career ends, which they need to get paid to do.

High profile players sit back and get fat on the back of having a bit left over from their $20 mil / year contracts.

I remember Garry Lyon said that Melbourne won 4 games last year. Hahaha

Possibly also because the fringe players get paid a (relative) pittance and still want to live the high life after their playing career ends, which they need to get paid to do.

High profile players sit back and get fat on the back of having a bit left over from their $20 mil / year contracts.

Yeah, there would be a bit of truth to that. No doubt.

The worst special comments guy I have ever seen in any sport, was NBA player, Tim Hardaway. Absolutely useless. It was comical. All he would do was tell you exactly what you'd seen. Stuff like "Yeah well he drives to the basket and scores and he likes that." He only last a few weeks on ESPN before he got the neck. Great player. Spud of a commentator.

Well I got sick of it and rang up 3AW on Saturday and gave Mike Sheahan a bake over his comments regarding Jacky-boy Watts.

He had mentioned that it was suspicious that Jack had vanished from the senior side and was not playing for Casey. After being firmly told that Jack was injured and had been for at least 3 weeks, he admitted that he had been "suitably admonished". For someone who's meant to be the Chief Football Writer for the Hun he is not very well informed.

On Foxsports League teams last Thursday/Friday, Ray Shaw was reviewing Melbourne's progress.

Ray Shaw?

Tony.

I remember Garry Lyon said that Melbourne won 4 games last year. Hahaha

Tell me - why is that so funny??

You never made a mistake???

Yeah, there would be a bit of truth to that. No doubt.

The worst special comments guy I have ever seen in any sport, was NBA player, Tim Hardaway. Absolutely useless. It was comical. All he would do was tell you exactly what you'd seen. Stuff like "Yeah well he drives to the basket and scores and he likes that." He only last a few weeks on ESPN before he got the neck. Great player. Spud of a commentator.

He was still around long enough to make sexist and then homophobic comments, which sealed the deal really.

I rather liked hearing during the Sydney game that Jurrah had been in the National Draft after all, and nobody noticed. :D

Ray Shaw?

Tony.

Fair enough, sorry, . I think Ray may have added some adjectives !!

Ray Shaw?

Tony.

Tony is living proof that being a former AFL Coach, AFL Captain and two-time Copeland Trophy winner is absolutely no qualification for being an expert commentator.

I rather liked hearing during the Sydney game that Jurrah had been in the National Draft after all, and nobody noticed. :D

I noticed that one too - he was 'overlooked' and then picked up by Melbourne.....

Slightly off topic, but.... SEN were just shambolic on Sunday.

While there were some amusing things that were said, Andy Maher acted like a petulent child for the most part imo. Topped it off when he walked out of the broadcast 19mins into the last quarter. He's got no right to bag us when he's a supporter of a team that's been doing dubious things on the field for nearly a decade. Besides, we we're in front after the final siren . So go figure...

I've only listened to them a couple of times, but they sound like a bunch of drunken mates watching the footyat the local pub, rather than professional commentators...

While there were some amusing things that were said, Andy Maher acted like a petulent child for the most part imo. Topped it off when he walked out of the broadcast 19mins into the last quarter. He's got no right to bag us when he's a supporter of a team that's been doing dubious things on the field for nearly a decade.

When Andy Maher tries to sound dramatic - often by way of a beat-up - he instead sounds like a panicky old woman.

He is a prize pearl-clutcher.

When Andy Maher tries to sound dramatic - often by way of a beat-up - he instead sounds like a panicky old woman.

He is a prize pearl-clutcher.

Yeah, it became really irritating pretty quickly. He just bagged everything we did. Every positional change, he scrutinized absolutely everything, and didn't do what he was payed at times - which is, calling the game play by play. I thought he was much worse than KB. He added absolutely nothing to the broadcast, and I actually felt like he was about to accuse Jared Rivers of cheating when he lost possession in the goal square (resulting in a goal for the tiges..). He sounded like he was going to say something along those lines, but changed his mind. Just really hypocritical coming from a Carlton supporter, and more basically, he just behaved very unproffesionally for mine.