Other Venues

[MadAsHell 4,212]

Wouldn't that be funny - VP as an AFL venue, but insufficent capacity for Collingwood to be able to play matches there.

Wouldn't it be so sweet! hehe.

[beelzebub 23,313]

and just how many ppl could bring themselves to go to a Dees home game at Victoria Tip ??

Not a true supportere would ever set foot in that ceespit !!

[MadAsHell 4,212]

and just how many ppl could bring themselves to go to a Dees home game at Victoria Tip ??

Not a true supportere would ever set foot in that ceespit !!

I can understand the feeling towards VP however as a solution to the stadium deals I think it's the best solution. Already on a train line which PP isn't. A 35,000 seat stadium there would be ideal (based off Westpac stadium in Wellington NZ) especially for St. Kilda, Roos and Bulldogs. I'd imagine 3 would be the most amount of games we'd have to play there as MCG deal isn't as bad as Docklands. Bottom line is VP and PP are the only shorter term options and VP would be the most easily accessed by the public.

[Yencks 8]

what is wrong with public transport to princes park??

just train to melbourne central and tram up swanson st to the end!

[beelzebub 23,313]

I can understand the feeling towards VP however as a solution to the stadium deals I think it's the best solution. Already on a train line which PP isn't. A 35,000 seat stadium there would be ideal (based off Westpac stadium in Wellington NZ) especially for St. Kilda, Roos and Bulldogs. I'd imagine 3 would be the most amount of games we'd have to play there as MCG deal isn't as bad as Docklands. Bottom line is VP and PP are the only shorter term options and VP would be the most easily accessed by the public.

Id counter that and suggest that thats just about the only way you could get to VP these days...good luck parking

The time element is that it would be 3-4 years to get VP down and up and ready.. you could pretty much have Princes park ready for next season if you really had a mind to do so. Its not a huge walk from Royal Park to PP ..nor the trams. As much as I detest both PP is an option with relative time frames attached.

[MadAsHell 4,212]

Id counter that and suggest that thats just about the only way you could get to VP these days...good luck parking

The time element is that it would be 3-4 years to get VP down and up and ready.. you could pretty much have Princes park ready for next season if you really had a mind to do so. Its not a huge walk from Royal Park to PP ..nor the trams. As much as I detest both PP is an option with relative time frames attached.

Agree with you there Belzebud59 in that it really is the only way to get there as there is no parking. However this can be rectyfied by the AFL. For example open up the MCG parking and have a few express trains from Jolimont to VP just as one thought?

And although it would take 3-4 years before VP would be up and running the way the contact works with Docklands 44 games a year have to be played there until the end of 2014. Therefore if we did have a new stadium next year almost no games would be played there. So that' why I believe it's still a better option then PP. Just in my opinion mind you.

And Nugget Jones the biggest problem with the transport to PP in my opinion is the trams are always to packed and not frequent enough. Think most people would rather go the train then tram, but again that's only my opinion. I do see why some people would prefer PP mind you.

[beelzebub 23,313]

you will have a big problem getting the MCG carpark open other than when a game is actually fictured there. The MCC ( council ) just isnt big on it....just a fact thats all. Trains to and from.. well ..in theory yes but headways and scheduling arent that overly easy to accomodate on that line unless trains continue etc. If you could..it would ease it ( travel ) for sure. Its just an awkward ask.

You rightly point out though that options probably are limited to those essentially.

Id offer up a left fielder though..

Linton Ave

[MadAsHell 4,212]

you will have a big problem getting the MCG carpark open other than when a game is actually fictured there. The MCC ( council ) just isnt big on it....just a fact thats all. Trains to and from.. well ..in theory yes but headways and scheduling arent that overly easy to accomodate on that line unless trains continue etc. If you could..it would ease it ( travel ) for sure. Its just an awkward ask.

You rightly point out though that options probably are limited to those essentially.

Id offer up a left fielder though..

Linton Ave

You do make a good point about MCC council and their car park. I think these are all big problems the AFL may have no matter where they look to put a 3rd Melbourne venue. One things for sure it will be interesting to see what solution they do come up with.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Can anyone tell me what the exact agreement is with no new stadiums being used for 25 years?

[MadAsHell 4,212]

Can anyone tell me what the exact agreement is with no new stadiums being used for 25 years?

My understanding is that when Docklands opened a contract was entered into with the AFL that no new venues would be built to host home & away and finals football in Victoria until the end of 2025. Also there's an agreement that Docklands gets 44 home & away games a year until the end of 2014 when it's then reduced to 30. However PP and VP were still in use at the time so they can still be used technically. Was all overseen by Wayne Jackson who we all know wants to reduce the number of Victorian clubs so that's probably why the stadium deal is so bad.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

My understanding is that when Docklands opened a contract was entered into with the AFL that no new venues would be built to host home & away and finals football in Victoria until the end of 2025. Also there's an agreement that Docklands gets 44 home & away games a year until the end of 2014 when it's then reduced to 30. However PP and VP were still in use at the time so they can still be used technically. Was all overseen by Wayne Jackson who we all know wants to reduce the number of Victorian clubs so that's probably why the stadium deal is so bad.

Thanks for that, it's a very interesting situation.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,772]

Never happened Junior. It was a bad dream. Never let the facts get in the..........

Did you attend the round 16 twilight game against North in 2007 at the Dome? We had the cheersquad and a smuttering of MFC supporters here and there.

It was 1,500 MFC fans at the most.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Did you attend the round 16 twilight game against North in 2007 at the Dome? We had the cheersquad and a smuttering of MFC supporters here and there.

It was 1,500 MFC fans at the most.

Your earlier comment suggest 500 MFC fans and 20,000 NM fans. Nothing like exaggeration is there to make you "sick in thr guts". There was no doubt our attendance was down buts lets not let the facts get in the way.

BTW, did you notice North had only 13,000 at the Dome on the weekend?

[Einstein 1]

So does that mean that Victoria Park (as terrible as that place was) would also be able to host matches if able, seeing as that ground was still in use when Docklands came in?

Melbourne playing home games at Victoria Park? I feel ill at the thought.

Won't happen anyway, that place is a wreck right now. Plus it has worse parking and public transport issues than Princes Park.

Plus I heard they're bulldozing it in order to build a Cash Converters and a gay bar.

[H_T 3,043]

Melbourne playing home games at Victoria Park? I feel ill at the thought.

Won't happen anyway, that place is a wreck right now. Plus it has worse parking and public transport issues than Princes Park.

Plus I heard they're bulldozing it in order to build a Cash Converters and a gay bar.

I thought it already was the latter.

[Sir Why You Little 36,971]

Melbourne playing home games at Victoria Park? I feel ill at the thought.

Won't happen anyway, that place is a wreck right now. Plus it has worse parking and public transport issues than Princes Park.

Plus I heard they're bulldozing it in order to build a Cash Converters and a gay bar.

Built on top of a slag heap way back. The Melbourne Football Club actually Helped fund the original building of vic park, so the Filth could have a home.

How times have changed, I hope in my lifetime to see The Demons back on equal Footing with the Filth slogging it out on centre stage-The MCG.