If we get picks 1 and 2, I would trade pick 2 and Jack Watts to Port Adelaide for Warren Tredrea and Dean Brogan.

We need a key forward and a ruck, and they would be perfect.

Done deal you contact the Dees I will contact Port.

huh?

RR was taking a shot at you for not being able to envisage PJ's delisting - something RR clearly thinks is a possibility.

RR was taking a shot at you for not being able to envisage PJ's delisting - something RR clearly thinks is a possibility.

Yeah I just didn't get his comment.."Maybe that's your problem"

Anyway, I don't think it will happen but I said 'maybe' and that's more likely than his other "Dead Easy" candidates for delisting like McNamara, Buckley, Bate, Dunn

I'll take a stab at it and say that these players won't be at the Dees next year: Whelan, Bell, Robbo, Junior. There might be others traded but I don't think there will be any other delistings/retirements and I think there is ZERO CHANCE of any of the above 4 youngsters (barring major injury) being delisted

Im sorry I just cant fathom why anyone is considering handing over a hard to get early pick in the last of the even drafts for at least 5 years.

We are NOWHERE near a tilt and near to bolster the ranks and improve the overall gene pool. We dont have 'that' much that we can afford to be cavalier about it now.

Picks 1 and 2 stay firmly in our hands for the best 2 players.. By al lmeans see who comes to the table for other offerings ut these two are non negotiable to me.

Next year is a different kettle of fish

Belze, we're often on the same wavelength mate, one day we should catchup for a beer when the DEES play interstate.

I'll take a stab at it and say that these players won't be at the Dees next year: Whelan, Bell, Robbo, Junior. There might be others traded but I don't think there will be any other delistings/retirements and I think there is ZERO CHANCE of any of the above 4 youngsters (barring major injury) being delisted

Agreed, I'd add Wheatley and possibly PJ.

Buckley, Bate, Dunn, Sylvia and PJ are all potential trades when GC arrives. I'm still hoping the first 4 become strong MFC players.

i would have no problem trading a top 2 pick for a Cooney, Franklin, Roughhead, Griffen, Kerr cant think of toomany others tho

The following are out of contract come end of this season :

Daniel Bell - October 2009

Kyle Cheney - October 2009

Aaron Davey - October 2009

Jack Grimes - October 2009

Mark Jamar - October 2009

Addam Maric - October 2009

James McDonald - October 2009

Brock McLean - October 2009

Tom McNamara - October 2009

John Meesen - October 2009

Brad Miller - October 2009

Cale Morton - October 2009

Russell Robertson - October 2009

Colin Sylvia - October 2009

Matthew Whelan - October 2009

three ought not be too hard

This is my take on current pecking order of the following list, - I can see 2 in danger for this year & some offered a one year contract for 2010, if thats allowed.

Aaron Davey - October 2009

Brock McLean - October 2009

Cale Morton - October 2009

Jack Grimes - October 2009

Tom McNamara - October 2009

Addam Maric - October 2009

James McDonald - October 2009

Colin Sylvia - October 2009

Kyle Cheney - October 2009

Brad Miller - October 2009

John Meesen - October 2009

Mark Jamar - October 2009

Russell Robertson - October 2009

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Daniel Bell - October 2009

Matthew Whelan - October 2009

i would have no problem trading a top 2 pick for a Cooney, Franklin, Roughhead, Griffen, Kerr cant think of toomany others tho

when do you think we will be that competitive to warrant such a costly purchase ?

Buckley, Bate, Dunn, Sylvia and PJ are all potential trades when GC arrives.

Do you think a new club will be that wet behind the years like the Brisbane Bears and given worthwhile draft picks for players who have had up to 7 years AFL experience and perennially failed to have a meaningful impact at that level and often could you grab a place in one of the worst teams I have seen play in the past 20 years?

Dream on.

I have a sneaking suspicion that with this years pandomoium and positioning y some clubs to insulate against the drought that there will be some sort of knowk on effect. The extent of which is unknown. However I CAN see some players at various clubs handed a lifeline if for no ther reason as it provides some sort of depth where little may become available. Just a hunch though

Do you think a new club will be that wet behind the years like the Brisbane Bears and given worthwhile draft picks for players who have had up to 7 years AFL experience and perennially failed to have a meaningful impact at that level and often could you grab a place in one of the worst teams I have seen play in the past 20 years?

Dream on.

My point is that Buckley, Bate, Dunn and Sylvia have all shown something. I would hope that if Bailey and co. can't make MFC players out of them then it is still quite possible another coach would see something in them. They all have some redeeming qualities, I wouldn't expect first round picks for them but I'd expect us to get something for them. I actually think there's still a chance they will become serviceable players for us in the future.

By the way you can hold the "Dream on" comment for someone else.

John Butcher

Tom Scully

Our 2 at this stage likely targets in the draft.

My point is that Buckley, Bate, Dunn and Sylvia have all shown something. I would hope that if Bailey and co. can't make MFC players out of them then it is still quite possible another coach would see something in them. They all have some redeeming qualities,

Sylvia has shown us that we wasted a number 3 pick sadly. His Glimpses are just that.

Tom Scully

I reckon this is a better clip of Scully's exploits:

I reckon this is a better clip of Scully's exploits:

Scully & Watts in the same Forward Line!!! I Gotta sit down!

Butcher looks awesome, so does Scully.

I'd hate for us to have to pick one or the other. Both would help us greatly!

Sylvia has shown us that we wasted a number 3 pick sadly. His Glimpses are just that.

Are you saying that we would expect to just cut him and get nothing in return? You have to remember that in the year's ahead the middle ranked club's are going to really struggle using the draft. They will have to trade and players of Sylvia's ability will be tradeable.

Sylvia has shown us that we wasted a number 3 pick sadly. His Glimpses are just that.

There was nothing that year to waste the pick on. Don't be sad. Sylvia may continue to improve.

re the new Scully hightlights;

And that is now a far better highlights package.

The only other one I had seen

did not really make clear his Judd-like qualities.

His speed and reading of the play is on another dimension.

Now I will be sad if WCE let us beat them this week

like they did last year when they were bolting to the wooden spoon to get Nat.

Are you saying that we would expect to just cut him and get nothing in return? You have to remember that in the year's ahead the middle ranked club's are going to really struggle using the draft. They will have to trade and players of Sylvia's ability will be tradeable.

The earlier Quote said that Sylvia Had Shown something. I was merely stating that a number 3 Draft should show a lot more.

Whether Col stays or not is within the Gods right now.

He Played a great 2nd Q against Richmond but i want him to show something against a top side.He is on a good wage. Part of which i payed for.

John Butcher

Tom Scully

Our 2 at this stage likely targets in the draft.

1:46 of Scully's clip was completely awesome.

The earlier Quote said that Sylvia Had Shown something. I was merely stating that a number 3 Draft should show a lot more.

Whether Col stays or not is within the Gods right now.

He Played a great 2nd Q against Richmond but i want him to show something against a top side.He is on a good wage. Part of which i payed for.

Fair enough

butcher took 6 contested marks on the weekend...but i think scully is the one we'd choose if we had to

butcher took 6 contested marks on the weekend...but i think scully is the one we'd choose if we had to

Richmond are going to go toe to toe with us for the coveted "spoon" this year, now they stuffed up with Richo as well as cousins (what a disgraceful medical team they have).

The west Aus teams will both win more than 4.

I heard Harvey on the radio interviewed late last night. Smart man. Like DB starting from scratch.

Sylvia has shown us that we wasted a number 3 pick sadly. His Glimpses are just that.

I think us ppicing sylvia at the time was the right one, he had shown alot of promise and looking at the other options well theres not much else id rather have, belive it or not you could almost tip the draft upside down lol. Just dont include pic 1

I heard Harvey on the radio interviewed late last night. Smart man. Like DB starting from scratch.

All the interviews I've seen of him, particularly on the couch last year, paint the opposite picture of Mark Harvey.

He sounded together on SEN interview yesterday, I was surprised when I heard it was him.