Hi,

Firstup appologies if I construed your invitation to join another site enscripted with the great mans name as a threat. It had been ardous day at work and I have been burning the candle at both ends of late. All thoughts on Micheal have to be as simplistic as possible for I feel that he is limited in both intellect and general resoning ability on the football field. By this I mean I have observed at select intervals, particulary during the previous two weeks, that unfortunatly he lacks what is commonly referred to as " Footy smarts".

We in the profession howeveer call this "apptitude".Micheals demenour and posture on the field have been the point of great fansination for me over a long period. Amid the furor during the Daniher era of his non inclusion in the team spreading across forums sites and through chats between supprters at the gound I held firm on my beliefs. These are that in my observation he seems to be very immature. There is a direct corraltion between the games that Micheal plays well in, and the games that Melbourne wins. This is determained a lot by the quality of supply going into the forward line. It has been reported quite visciforously within certain sectors of the club that Micheals attitude problems and not abating. This cements my assumptions of his body language and lack of effort on these occaions that he is in simple terms " A hugly overated intantile dummy spitter".

I hear you argue has he ever played well? my answer to that is that I think what Micheal thinks is playing well and what actually constitutes a satisfactory game at AFL level are two totally differnt paridigms. His inclination to adopt the spectacular in perfernce for the menial taks on the football field is obvious, not only to me, but also the supporter in the outer. However I think his feelings covertly are the driving force behind the Micheal Newton who plays at Casey and the Newton at AFL level. I think he was superior athelitcally to most at TAC cup level therefore his application at this level nees to be less to succeed that what it is currently in the AFL. He operated in a comfort zone at Sandringham, and now he is doing at Casey.His comfort zone is where he has to work at a minimal level for maximum output. For example run to the wing, take a screamer, get the crowd yelling and then starts the next passage of play.

However at AFL level his is what we psychologists call a "social loafer". A social loafer is someone who does not contribute to a group task when there is a common goals attainable at the end of it. By this I mean he only puts in for his own gain, rather than applying himself to the whole goals of the team. Truthfully I feel that rival AFL teams have done their homewrok on Micheal and I feel that when he is in the forward 50 they block his space to lead into and disallow the potential for him to fly. Now his ideals of what is perfect are construrued and he becomes angry. it is a little like taking a lolly away from a young child. If they cant have it, and have it easily, there is no piint having it at all. Somrtimes being in the limeloght is what people strive for.

A great philosopher Jeremy Bethan once said that people strive toward the pleasure principle. This is they strive for pleasure and only pleasure is the greatest attainable amout.Theortetically this says to others bugger you im working toward fullfilling my own needs in precedenc to yours. You may also notice that when he is stationary in the forwrd 50 some teams will have a player go to him, bumping into him, hastling him and saying a lot of not so nice phrases to him. I overheard some of it in the pocket on Sunday as a matter of fact. This cements my assumption that other teams feel the key to conquering him is to get inside his head and that they feel cognitivly he is a little fragile.

Unfortunatly as you may well know in life generally being fragile means being a little vulnerable in a some areas. If a psychologist can pinpoint those areas, and highlight them to an opposition coach then the job is half done with those of low intellect and emotiponal intelligance such as Micheal.

To sum up I know I will attact considerable critisism after other posters read this incrimentally, probably critiqing my spelling because they have nothing better to occupy themselves with. This is my opinion and I am entitled to it, and after all you asked for it. I find it liberating to have another person on this site who actually houses some active neaurotranimtter activity and isa able to think critcally in some capacity. So thankyou for your insight and request for my thoughts.

Kind regards

Danegerous Demon

Edited April 28, 200916 yr by Jaded
fixed the title and added spacing to please all the precious readers

Exactly who is this "Micheal" fella?

Quite the assessment. I must say this would just about cover al that I have seen of Newton to date and describes his on field behaviour foibles rather accurately. I too dont think he has what is required at AFL level. I have seen petulance in place of pressure and poor positioning and space use where cunning and authority was required.

Fancies himself as a bit of a showman me thinks without the requisite talent and results to validate it.

Theres no fun or profit in evaluating a player in this manner and its not a personal thing..its just what is, observations that he isnt what we need in our team. He doesnt cut the mustard!!

Exactly who is this "Micheal" fella?

Have a think about it mate

A non twaddle interpretation........as we would say in my dear old Motherland...."he hasn't got any bottle'".....end of story

Hi,

...... probably critiqing my spelling because they have nothing better to occupy themselves with..........

Kind regards

Danegerous Demon

Then don't invite the criticism. OK, OK, I have nothing better to do. But for goodness sake.............

Firstly, my given name is Michael. It is spelt M-I-C-H-A-E-L. Not that uncommon a name I would have thought.

If you wish to embark on some treatise on the pros and cons of Juice Newton, then at least apply some rigour and check your copy before sending it to "press".

B59 said it all and was much more concise, without the need for inaccurate and mispelt hyperbole.

DangerousDemon,

Ever heard of the spell check function and the enter key? You know, the one that allows you to create paragraphs?

I found your post unreadable.

Regards,

MikeyJ

(another Michael, not a Micheal).

For crying out..have folks nothing better to do than spell nazi ??

You were able to read it.. try critiquing the commentary..i.e the content not the box.

For crying out..have folks nothing better to do than spell nazi ??

You were able to read it.. try critiquing the commentary..i.e the content not the box.

Nothing to do with being a "spell nazi". If you want to go on with such convoluted drivel, then take the time to get it right. As MikeyJ said the post was unreadable. It made no sense at all and the hashed spelling only made that worse.

Happy to read anything on this forum, but if you want to engage in some cerebral examination of a player, at least make it readable

For crying out..have folks nothing better to do than spell nazi ??

You were able to read it.. try critiquing the commentary..i.e the content not the box.

I thought it failed both as a creative piece and as something which added to anything already posted.

I thought it failed both as a creative piece and as something which added to anything already posted.

what you proffer above is quite more befitting of your cause/stance.. your previous narky post isn't..you know it

I thought the post was itntersting as, many say and say again, footy is mainly between the ears. So some insight as to how this all affects a player.. Newton in this instance interests me.

what you proffer above is quite more befitting of your cause/stance.. your previous narky post isn't..you know it

I thought the post was itntersting as, many say and say again, footy is mainly between the ears. So some insight as to how this all affects a player.. Newton in this instance interests me.

Glad you could understand it B59. At least can we get his name right then?

I found the opening post extremely interesting, and a view which we have never had before into players' psychology.

Shame that the rest of the posts were completely and utterly irrelevant!

I particularly liked the "it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it" line in the last paragraph. Why people feel the need to point this out in advance is beyond me.

Anyway, I think I've got it Doc. Now add the fact that Newton is clumsy and I diagnose Asbergers Syndrome.

How am I travelling so far ?

DangerousDemon,

Ever heard of the spell check function and the enter key? You know, the one that allows you to create paragraphs?

I found your post unreadable.

Regards,

MikeyJ

(another Michael, not a Micheal).

And if you cannopt spell Jeremy BENTHAM then best not to quote him by name. Misspellings, agrammatical construction etc does nothing for your credibility.

Basically, you say he's selfish, self-interested, lazy and motivated only by his own advantage. Anything I have missed?

However at AFL level his is what we psychologists call a "social loafer".

I agree with this bit. Having just studied this exact thing the other week, Newton's a good example of it.

But I have to say, even now that the post has been cleaned up, it is still very hard to read. That's probably why a lot of people replying here don't understand what you're talking about, so just criticise you. I just wish more people knew how to spell, because it often ruins good arguments.

And if you cannopt spell Jeremy BENTHAM

haha just my observation.

Wall of text..../shudder, you could have just said lazy and we'd have the same result

Wall of text..../shudder, you could have just said lazy and we'd have the same result

Exactly right. He is lazy as they come and he is lucky Robbo is not ready yet as he will make way for him no doubt.

He is Crap. Full stop. Thats all the needs to be said.

Edited April 28, 200916 yr by Rogue
Only quote the relevant excerpts - not huge slabs

"For god sakes he has playetd 24 games and is only still early 19's. He averages over 20 disposals a game which is terrific.

People expect so much so quick these days. The people on this forum need to learn 2 things. To be REALISTIC and Patient" (from Digga about Cale Morton)

In your own words Digga - Newton might not be early 19's but is still young, he's played barely 20 games with about 5 shots on goal a game - not too bad considering the supply. Just needs confidence to back himself and convert - Just be Realistic and Patient!

one also needs to be realistic about patience !!

"For god sakes he has playetd 24 games and is only still early 19's. He averages over 20 disposals a game which is terrific.

People expect so much so quick these days. The people on this forum need to learn 2 things. To be REALISTIC and Patient" (from Digga about Cale Morton)

In your own words Digga - Newton might not be early 19's but is still young, he's played barely 20 games with about 5 shots on goal a game - not too bad considering the supply. Just needs confidence to back himself and convert - Just be Realistic and Patient!

GOAL KICKING PRESSURE IS ONE THING THAT YOU CANT EVER CHANGE. KICKING THOSE POINTS IS UNEXCEPTABLE.

E.G. MATTHEW RICHARDSON, at least he makes up for it by getting the ball.

Newton is 22 now and plays like he is 18. He is to far behind already and has NO SPEED what so ever. CLEAR him out to make room for some draft picks.

Be REALISTIC

I found the opening post extremely interesting, and a view which we have never had before into players' psychology.

Shame that the rest of the posts were completely and utterly irrelevant!

whoa.......the reason we have never had this insight before, is we don't need it, a lot of the posters on here have watched football for a long time and can pick a player who is not up to AFL standard,

I try not to bag players out of hand but even to me Newton has no bottle, he needs to throw himself into it, he probably has more skill than Miller but not the grunt,

if we could mix both we might get a decent forward, I like Miller though and we need him in the team, he will be a good foil for Watts who in the couple of things I have seen him in, at least attacks the game,

the coaching staff probably see Newton do things at training and can see the potential, but when the heat of the game comes along he wilts...........anyone who has played competitive sport knows that's what it means you have to compete.you do not have to have a degree in trick cycling to know that........as I have previously stated not being of giant stature I had to compensate with my competitiveness.........a broken ankle, wrist, shoulder, two knee operations, cracked ribs, and sundry other injuries show that at least I was in there.........on Sunday Newton left the field without a hair out of place.

whoa.......the reason we have never had this insight before, is we don't need it, a

whoa..yourself good buddy.. anyone is entitled to post a view.. someone die and make you the thought police ??..probably not

Maybe the original post was too long for your liking..too detailed..whatever.. not all carry your view..

vive le difference !! qui !!