Ted Lasso

Pick 14 and Brad Hill to Freo Pick 7 to Gold Coast Suns O'meara to Hawks does that work maybe?

Does Jobe keep the Brownlow? Absolutely not! the brownlow is awarded to the fairest and best player of each season, why should Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin who both played fairly in the 2012 miss out on the opportunity to be awarded one of the most prestigious individual honours in the game when the current holder of the 2012 medal is now a convicted drug cheat in the very same year he won it? I've heard Essendon supporters argue that the AFL tribunal found them not guilty so why should he lose an AFL award, i say to the same people, had they been found guilty they would have appealed the decision and if it were then overturned they wouldn't be complaining about the system, this attitude is that of a sooky child who has thrown his toys out of the cot because he didn't get his own way. the other argument i've heard is that if Jobe has to give his medal back so do Ben Cousins and Dane Swan, this is even more laughable, clearly not understanding the difference between recreational drugs and performance enhancing drugs, and not understanding there is totally different set of rules for each. three strikes policy is in place for a reason. there is absolutely no good reason i have ever heard to allow Jobe to keep his brownlow, he cheated and is yet to take responsibility for it in any real way, and neither are any of the players, lets remember that in 30 odd approaches from ASADA not one of these players ever declared any of these injections. I have very little sympathy for the players in this situation as i believe they're the real cause for this situation, people can argue that dank bought the injections into the club, and the club culture is to trust your doctors ect, but ultimately it's the players decision if they accept the injections and it's the players decision to keep correct records incase ASADA come knocking. i've said it a few times on here, every single AFL player is 100% responsible for every substance that enters their body, they're responsible for keeping records to prove they haven't cheated, i know players who write down the serial numbers on bottles for their records, there is absolutely no excuse for 34 professional athletes to fail to do this really simple part of being a professional athlete. so there is no way Jobe can keep his brownlow, if he does it would be the darkest day in AFL history as it would signal the end of all integrity in the game, you can't be the best and FAIREST player in the league and a drug cheat in the very same year.

I wonder if the delay is the Bombers wanting to see just how far our second rounder gets pushed back, i mean it was 26, it's already gone to 28, 29 if the Mayne deal gets done. our 2017 second round pick might be looking more appealing now.

Maybe Brand fits into it somehow? the Swans need key defenders. not sure if pick 23 and Brand would be enough pick 14, 33 and say Hartung for O'meara maybe?

and i suspect it and something else gets the deal done for Mitchell, and O'meara will be a player and a pick.

It's more than just playing ability, 300 odd games experience, his elite kicking on both sides is something i'm not sure any other player in the comp would replace, his footy brain is right up there as well.

I suspect Mitchell and Clarko have a very strong relationship and he's mentioned to him a number of times that he's interested in coaching after footy and that's something they may even be working on developing at the Hawks, i reckon this is just Clarko putting it to Sam that if a deal can work for both parties it'd be a good opportunity for him. to me this is a very mature way to handle it, i'm sure part of him would be pretty sad to leave the Hawks but it's an awesome opportunity for him under a coach that he clearly respects greatly.

get on the phone MFC, offer him 2 years and a transition into coaching.

LOL!! EFC supporters arguing that because the AFL tribunal didn't find them guilty Jobe has to keep his brownlow!!

Maybe they should take it up with Dank?

It's not, but the AFL seem to be behaving like petulant children unwilling to accept the decision so anything is possible to spite WADA/ASADA giving them pick 1 in itself is a joke

No logically way he can keep the medal, The Brownlow is awarded to the FAIREST and best player in 2012, the same year Jobe now has been found guilty of cheating. it's disgusting that there is even a conversation about this. The AFL needs to realise they can't play both sides, by looking after EFC the way they have they're making themselves looks corrupt as all hell very publicly and losing favour with the other 17 clubs who didn't cheat.

It's a real shame because both are great guys and super talented, but because they don't have the exposed form they don't attract anywhere near the interest they should. I reckon Essendon would be nuts not to trade pick 1 this year, they could get pick 3 and something else from the Giants for that upgrade and still get the bloke they want.

Freo get pick 7 in a super open draft, McCarthey who they offered two first round picks for only 12 months ago, pick 33 which should help get Brad Hill over the line and a bonus pick. it has the potential to be a massive win for them, one thing i will say about the Giants is they clearly understand the amount of help they're getting and they don't seem to mind paying overs to help out the other clubs.

Could be a huge value deal if McCarthy can get back to his best form. do they now move pick 33 on to the Hawks for Brad Hill?

apparently good mates with Carracella who's now an assistant at the Tigers

A fully fit Lids takes so much pressure of Dangerfield and Selwood and i don't think the loss of Caddy will be hugely missed, so i reckon it's win-win, given the Cats are chasing a flag and Lids might get them over the line, and the Tigers are probably 3-4 years away yet. Salary and Salary cap for the cats being the biggest hurdle

Damien Barrett reporting that the Tigers are asking for Josh Caddy in a swap for Brett Deledio, must say i don't rate Caddy as any more than a solid B grade player and a fully fit lids is definitely an A grader, but his age and Salary are a concern in that deal thoughts?

If we can get the Hibberd deal done for our future second rounder i'd be more than happy to put pick 28 on the table for him, i reckon he's a very good player, and while we have a few half backs it releases Hunts and Salem up the ground.

me either, would personally be happy to move him on to get someone like O'meara in the door

He's a bloody good player when fully fit, my concern is that the Hawks need to re-build their midfield and giving up one of the only good mids of the right age profile they have seems like it would be a bad result, especially given risks and so on. if they could get the deal done with another player i reckon they should jump at it.

Simply saying i wouldn't do that trade personally, just my opinion.

Look Stuie you're missing the point. can you be 100% sure there is no risk to O'meara, as you said you can't, the Hawks are clearly backing themselves to get him right, good on them, i am questioning trading Shiel, not bringing in O'meara. they need to re-build their midfield, i reckon giving away a good-very good midfielder for a very good but injury prone one isn't the way to do that, just my opinion i'd much rather see them trade Bruest for example who i see as less essential if you like. but this has nothing to do with the Dees

I didn't suggest that he wouldn't be able to tell, but given i work in the fitness industry i can say with absolute confidence that a serious injury like that, keeps you out of the game for two years will have some serious unknown factor about it, so the risk is significant, how will he respond to week to week footy ect and my point was that Shiels is a very good player with no serious injury history, and while O'meara fully fit may be better, i wouldn't be doing that particular trade.

I disagree, anyone who hasn't played in two years is a huge risk