Diamond_Jim

Take a look at the third quarter Last quarter only marginally better (put the scores out of your mind as that was the thing that kept it interesting)

Lions played slow boundary line football like we do. Collingwood probably should have won by around 20 but they didn't really take the game on either. Not sure I would call it a great game. Tentative close game more like it

Lions kind of deserved that Have played conservatively all day

Lions need to attack... not hug the boundary

Slow play that quarter by both teams

Go hard for whoever missed their finals team if they fit the bill.

With deals like they have given to North and the entry of Tasmania plus the inevitable 20th team a year or two later the future draft landscape is a minefield

Had the same thoughts yesterday. Cannot continue the same error in 2024. One year contract for a makeshift forward. Perhaps a Melksham type if no talls available (McAdam is a decent start)

Watching the 2021 GF again. Before the game Fox had a segment on Bulldogs smothering. Not one looked like Maynard's uncontrolled leap forward into a player... Football Act !!!!

Only a row.... In the AFL members I could have a section. If on level 4 one got most of the stand

Robbie Williams got a million which was considered a bargain

Would it be healthy or maudlin if I watched the 2021 GF witth Dennis Cometti commentary. This one hurts even more than last year... What a waste

Tend to agree.... there's not much else available. (Save for a back up ruck of the Preuss type) We may even not take up all our list spots if TMac and BBB also retire

Umpiring living up to the men's standard but we'll take it

The flipside is that assuming North get bottom of round 1 for McKay is he rated as one pick difference? Could be

About the 5th last game JJ played one of the best VFL games I've seen in the midfield. He has the talent

There's smoke... there's uncertainty... there's fire How large is the question

They do but what does it say. One of the things about contracts is imagining imponderables and dealing with them. GCS contracted Ablett junior and massively front loaded his five odd year deal. The contract had no clawback provisions when he left early. Then there was the Treloar fiasco. (Admiitedly not the lawyer's fault that time)

Nail on the head By asking the question post trade who takes the risk.

The Saga continues See this post I just made on the Trade Rumors thread A potentially big twist in the Grundy deal... (Collingwood playing the spoiler) This column can reveal that, when the deal goes through, Collingwood will seek clarity from the AFL as to whether the club can remove itself from the deal, and therefore clear the $350,000-a-year space in their future total player payments. A senior club source, who wouldn’t speak publicly due to the confidentiality of player contracts, confirmed the Magpies had discussed internally the status of Grundy’s seven-year Collingwood contract if he were to move clubs again. Collingwood’s position will be that it had a deal with Grundy and Melbourne, but not with Grundy and Sydney. It’s a position that might be difficult to get past the bosses at AFL HQ, given that Andrew Dillon and Laura Kane are both lawyers. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/money-money-money-why-the-grundy-poker-game-is-heating-up-20230926-p5e7s6.html

A potentially big twist in the Grundy deal... (Collingwood playing the spoiler) This column can reveal that, when the deal goes through, Collingwood will seek clarity from the AFL as to whether the club can remove itself from the deal, and therefore clear the $350,000-a-year space in their future total player payments. A senior club source, who wouldn’t speak publicly due to the confidentiality of player contracts, confirmed the Magpies had discussed internally the status of Grundy’s seven-year Collingwood contract if he were to move clubs again. Collingwood’s position will be that it had a deal with Grundy and Melbourne, but not with Grundy and Sydney. It’s a position that might be difficult to get past the bosses at AFL HQ, given that Andrew Dillon and Laura Kane are both lawyers. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/money-money-money-why-the-grundy-poker-game-is-heating-up-20230926-p5e7s6.html

Another year and we don't have to wonder where our post match celebrations will be held. Can Collingwood still use Victoria Park and how about the Lions at Brusnswick Street Oval. Olympic Park does not have the same feel. I see the Pies are trying a fan site at Olympic Park. These have never really worked in the past. A pity.... I wonder what would attract people. I thought our post premiership day at the MCG was well done but I hope the next one is even better

Interesting... My present thoughts on TMac and BBB staying for another year are that I'm ambivalent simply because we have so many others leaving thus freeing up spots. Are we better off with them leaving allowing us to plunder the lower levels of the draft and trying to find a diamond. (In saying this I'm assuming injuries and form will preclude both from senior selection in 2024) Pity you have to give all draftees 2 years as a one year option for lower level choices might actually encourage clubs to give the outliers a chance. Sure we have the mid year rookie draft but not sure that it's the answer as increasingly those players within the elite full time training universe offered by AFL improve at a different rate.

There's a lot of energy on this thread. As someone posted however total trades are around 30 and most are at the Harmes level. Points trading is interesting but with North this year and Tasmania to come the pool is hopelessly compromised. I enjoy the speculation but it would be interesting to hear from managers why players tend to re-sign rather than switch. Especially players at less successful clubs. Post 2021 I thought we might have picked up a player or two as a destination club from GCS or the likes but it doesn't happen. Why is it so, Professor

What did Yze do? Was he the strategist as well as the ingame "coach". If so we need more than a midfield coach.