Watts Jurrah Dunn?

A small part of me is pleased we got a touch up going into the bye. We can give the Premiership and 'perfect list' stuff a rest for a couple of weeks and work our backsides off rather than drink our own bath water. Theres no doubt the fixture has flattered us and we've got a few glaring holes to fill. Not only do we desperately need a run-all-day wingman like Gaff but we desperately need midfielders with some pace. We love them, but get it outside of Oliver, Viney, Jones, Brayshaw etc and it's Christmas if you're a mid with some acceleration like Treloar, De Goey and Adams found today. We need a Shuey/Shiel type. Heck bring Aaron Hall in on the cheap. I hope Goodwin's obsession with contest doesn't see us miss a pacey outside type, who by their very nature are not strong at contested ball. The cake is built now and it's time to add some run and class. With Lewis, Vince, Jetta and even Hibberd all closer to the end than than the beginning, and Wagner not exactly a dasher, we also need a few half back flankers that can run and kick. Hopefully by the end of the season Hunt and Baker can provide a bit of dash.

Petracca won't even need a shower after this one.

Collingwood way too quick. Real pity Hunt has gone backward and Frost hasn't come on.

Petracca trying to kick the cover off the ball again. A simple centre to Hogan goes 10m over his head. Tries the drilling ball a minute later and kicks it along the ground. Plays like a millionaire.

Gawn clearly a target of Collingwood. Just bumping into him every chance they get. Too nice, big Maxy. Should have killed Langdon on the wing when he had the sit and Langdon was fully outstretched running back. Should have made a real statement.

For a full time, $400k a year footballer, that we included a pick 2 to recruit, playing against plumbers and electricians. Yeah wow.

Garlett was afraid to take possession of the ball against Richmond. He's a cat. Cant be trusted and is almost 29. No future at all. Hunt far too talented and young to have him rotting in the 2s.

Would prefer to try Hunt forward over Garlett. No future in Jeffey. Hunt would at least chase and tackle like his life depends on it, and from memory he was a tricky match up and kicked a couple when he was thrown forward last year. Play him in a position where he can still use his athletic traits but his poor field kicking isn't as obvious - just like TMac.

WB, we missed finals last year by 2 goals, copped all the rhetoric from players about how 'every moment counts', and we know you're going to be able to throw a blanket over ladder positions 5-10 at the end of this season as well. Percentage is bound to decide spots again. People have every right to be upset with a drop-off late in games. I'd be disappointed in our supporters if they were happy with a team that clearly lacks the ability to keep the foot on the throat.

Roos on MMM: He's got some real penetration now in his kicking, Dom. When he first got to the club he had a couple of knee dislocations but he's been able to build his legs right up and he's got some real penetration now. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why move him up to the box if he was doing such a terrific job for the past 2 years?

He was very fumbly and ordinary on wings and flanks in AFLX and JLT1. When they threw him into the middle to play the inside mid role against the Saints he was very good. He's an inside midfielder. I wish they'd play him there. Obviously Oliver and Viney are ahead of him in that role but I can't work out for the life of me why you'd play Maynard ahead of him. He's also a few years younger than Tyson and has more of a future than him. Jones and Lewis shouldn't have to play inside anymore with all these young bulls. I see Oliver, Viney, Brayshaw with cameos from Petracca as being the 10 year midfield. I wish they'd play him because right now Brayshaw at 3 and Weideman at 9 look very ordinary picks.

Yeah Weideman at 9, 4 picks before Curnow was a shocker. You get that one right and we are on our way. You'd just love to know how keen we were before the drink driving thing, which was probably setup by Carlton.

Should have kicked 6. Missed two sitters and gave away one in the goalsquare. Looks a terrific prospect and should go past Bugg and Harmes reasonably quickly. Appears to have X factor with his marking, and the quick snap goal while being tackled showed he's good at ground level as well. All that 'weak draft that falls off a cliff after pick 15' stuff looks wrong already.

We haven't played finals for a decade mate. Question everything the football dept do. If Goodwin plays Pederson early last year ahead of Spencer and Tim Smith, we play finals. If Taylor calls out Charlie Curnow instead of Sam Wiedeman a couple of years back, we play finals. They are not always right. Too many sycophants on here.

Here it is simplified for you. We are out of the super draft next year, so there's another opportunity gone to get a quality midfielder. 3 of our mids are almost done. Only 2 are proven AFL midfielders and will be there in 2020 when we are beating down the door. We don't need another half forward flanker or key position defender. Constable or Petruccelle at 31, and Worpol at 37 would have been better selections given our lack of midfield depth.

Jones missed 6 weeks last year with a quad and has already done a calf this pre-season. Vince is borderline best 22 and has 1 left. Lewis has 1 good season and 1 ordinary season left. Salem and Brayshaw are far from proven, bona fide afl mids capable of playing 20 good games a season. When Viney misses, as we saw last season - it all falls onto Oliver's shoulders. There is not enough depth. I hope Brayshaw and Salem finally begin to justify their draft ranking, and that Maynard, vandenBerg and Harmes come on to help this. I like the look of Petty, but it certainly wasn't a need. Our key defenders are young and developing. The way they have pumped games into him, our FD seem to have great faith in Oscar as a long term prospect. Unlike the midfield, no one retires in a year or two, in fact they'll just be entering their prime. Petty now develops behind Oscar, Lever, Frost and Keilty, who have 8-10 years ahead of them. Who knows how Tom Mac goes as a forward when the oppposition start putting work into him as a forward. I also see no need to bring in a medium forward who is a clone of Mitch Hannan. Fritsch needs two seasons in the gym and has not proven himself of being able to pinch hit in the midfield at VFL level. Once he puts on 8 kilos, will he be good enough to dislodge Petracca, Hannan, Melksham, ANB, Harmes, Bugg etc from a half forward flank? We have them coming out of our ears! Anyway, good luck to them and I hope I'm wrong, but for mine, Fritsch and Petty picks should have been Pettrucelle and Worpol.

Tom Mac will be Forward 5 minutes if Weideman comes on mate. How many backs do you need? Richmond and the Bulldogs have won flags with how many dominant Key Positions Forwards? Matches are won and lost in the midfield. We added a dwarf 170cm forward mid, and an outside winger that averages 16 touches in the NEAFL. Petrucelle and Worpol were still on the board. I hope I'm wrong, but I see the midfield as seriously lacking depth in a year or two when Vince, Jones and Lewis are gone.

Some of the Phantom drafts mentioned West Coast were really keen. They took the extra time for the very next pick. I reckon we threw them. Too early for mine.

Petrucelle the next pick? Best available before needs. Given the plethora of key and medium sized defenders we already have developing, I'm not sure about this one.

There is a 3 minute highlights video of him available on the afl.com.au Draft Machine. http://www.afl.com.au/draft/draft-machine Type in Oscar Baker. Looks a nice prospect but it almost looks like a non-contact league in that video, and I'm not sure AFL players will buy the candy he is selling.

From a couple of the Bigfooty Phantom's: Snoop Dog: Knightmare: Young Talent Time:

The Pick 35 sh1ts me. With compo it will go to 37 or 38. Just speculative crap. For us to cough up two first rounders we had to make the Crows find us something in the Top 25. The soft Roos trading mantra of "win/win" and good blokeing yourself lives on.

But the bigger hole in the list is that we have no midfield class, pace or depth. Tom McDonald has to play forward to accommodate Lever. Tall defenders are hardly a gap in the list. They're there. I don't see any midfielders that can break away from a stoppage, evade, bounce and hit Hogan lace out. The midfield lacks pace and kicking skill. Lewis, Vince and Jones are approaching the end. Bradshaw is no certainty. It is absurd to trade 2 first round picks when we lack skill and pace through the middle AND the player has nominated us.

We'd get him for free? Or we'd have to use pick 10 in the Draft? Treloar was 2 first rounders and a 2nd rounder back. However, Collingwood's first rounders were something like 6 and 8? Melbourne's are going to be 10 and 12-14 (hopefully). Lever is a Key Position Player, harder to find than midfielders.