Die Hard Demon

We veered off what I was initially trying to say. When these players have down days (and trust me, they certainly have OFF games), the fringe players lift and play their part to get their team across the line. We are not a 22 man squad. We are a lets pray Trac, Clarry and Gawny are ON today otherwise we're screwed

Yeah but my point is that they are likely to make as many if not more turnovers than guys like Petracca. You specified that you need to be hitting targets more frequently to be considered A Grade. These guys throughout a game are more likely to miss more targets than Tracc. The reason they are superstars, is because they have MORE support around them. The fringe players that do their part. Our fringe players were basically ball watching last night. p.s. Dustin Martin has the most clangers in the comp

ohhh but they do.. I thought it'd be interesting to have a closer look at avg disposal efficiency stats across 2020. It's very interesting.. Adam Treloar: 56.3% Trent Cotchin: 59% Luke Parker: 60.2% Patrick Dangerfield: 61.7% Tim Kelly: 62.9% Jack Viney: 65% Marcus Bontempelli: 65.4% Steele Sidebottom: 65.7% Dustin Martin: 66.2% Patrick Cripps: 66.9% Angus Brayshaw: 68.2% Christian Petracca: 68.5% You can decide which ones are "stars" or not.

Do you watch much of other teams with these so called "stars" .. The Martin's, Fyfe's, Bont's, Cripps, Dangers' of this world are some of the BIGGEST clanger kings going around. It doesn't seem to hinder their teams ability to win games.

Our fringe players are woeful even in our wins. That's the problem.

It's not the worst idea. Although it HAS to come down to not being coached / set up correctly around stoppages. Protecting teammates and space is clearly not instinctual from our players. It's see ball get ball and wanting to be the hero. This is a coaching and building good habits fail. Goodwin and the midfield coaches have had years to get it right to no avail.

Yeah I get what you're saying and that's very true. They certainly killed any momentum we may have been building.. Although I still think we do rely on those players having near perfect games to get us across the line. Maybe the weight of expectation to get us rolling affects their ability to perform consistently well. We don't want what's happening to Patrick Cripps to happen to Tracc & Clarry.

You’re first reason is why I can never see Melbourne under Goodwin being a successful side. We just rely WAY too heavily on our best players getting us across the line. Did you watch Richmond on Wed night? Dusty had a stinker.. but they have 21 other blokes who play a role & play it well. Last week we don’t beat Saints if Trac, May & Gawn don’t play. We’re so predictable.. Shut down our best & we go to water.

seasons over.. play the kids

melbourne - dead to me

this side is embarrassing. players, coaching staff.. you can all just [censored] off

Despite the win, there were way too many passengers last night who need to be dropped. AVB no tackles.. if that bloke isn’t crunching bones then he’s not bringing anything else. Has been gifted games this year, needs to be dropped. Pickett also needs to be rested. Unfortunately he is still quite a fair way off & has been for a few weeks now. Goes to ground too easily & doesn’t keep the footy in front of him. Needs to work on his craft. Hannan... about as useful as a piece of clay. Just there. Turned the footy over several times when we got it out the back. Needs to be dropped. Melksham is still well below his lofty standards, but perhaps showing signs of building some form. SloMac is just too slow, mentally & physically. Takes too long to make a decision. Perhaps he serves a purpose for the back line structure but he’s a liability. I’d drop him. Jones had that one very costly turnover & seems to be getting slower every second. It’s hard to watch, but I think he plays for his career next week. Brown & Wagner on notice .. didn’t do enough imo but given at least another week to justify selection. Outs: AVB, Pickett, Hannan & OMac Ins: Fritsch, Harmes, Lockhart & Baker

Melbourne - Too many passengers

yep

IMO there are too many melbourne players that are content with receiving their pay checks. There’s not enough hurt or desire to be a hardened, successful side. We will always be a middle of the road team with this list, with a coach that rides the highs & lows with no killer instinct.

I agree. Dogs were very ordinary today. We were awful tbh & made them look better than they were. I don’t rate the dogs, which speaks volumes about us.

We will never win a flag under Goodwin. The end.

The funny thing is that i don’t think they are.. we are just off big time today. the dogs are keeping us in this with their poor use.

Salem .. 50% disposal efficiency, 8 clangers & 3 frees against. Our best players are going backwards at the rate of knots.

Good to get a win.. maybe it’ll help build some confidence.. however i’m just not convinced at all.. there was more to not like than like.. it was still a bottom 4 performance imo.

How can we take this season seriously if players clearly don't?

More inside 50’s than the cats. What has changed since last year? We still suck.

So true.. If we can't put it together this season at full strength the coach simply MUST go

Gee i hope we win a flag before the filth.

Must be a slow news night. This story was the one we heard early last week. Dodgy news corp attempting to get cheap clicks.