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Maybe because he was injured? Based on that theory Lenny Hayes was unable to break into the Saints last year either.

Sources saying Morton deal done.

Perhaps you should try reading your own empty posts first before commenting on others. And I agree, this is looking more and more like a desperate quick fix the longer trade period goes on. Thank god its finishing up today or else we probably would begun seeing other potential A graders traded off for C grade VFL players.

God Mr Tim Harrington is getting bent over on every trade this trade period. Someone teach this guy how to negotiate...

First rounder with 3 yrs development and averages over 20 disposals. MFC better play hardball on this.

Forget pederson. Demand their first rounder and take Stringer

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/players/playerprofile/jeremyhowe/tabid/8357/playerid/22238/category/senior/season/2012/selected/bio/default.aspx first sentence "The high-marking forward was drafted as a mature-age player and made his debut in round 11,"

2013 Watts, Sylvia (UFA), Davey (RFA), Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick MFC may be thinking ahead in relations to how we will create list space next year.

Like how we assumed the group of professionals of the last 5 year would work and knew what they were doing?

Define 'Mature' Howe as classed as a 'Mature' player at 20 when drafted. That's how old Evans is...20, so why wouldn't he be classed as mature? I am all for bringing in mature players, but I want mature players who can at least play in the firsts of their team. Not ones who have already been through 2 clubs, was about to get de-listed and is 29 and will be lucky to play 15 games for us.

I rate Evans over Nicho any day of the week. Have you actually seen them all play?

You don't think Dawes, Barry, Viney, Byrnes, Pick 4 and Hogan is something different?

Yes but he takes up a place on our list. Could mean the difference between retaining Evans, Nicho, Davis or Jetta. Who I would personally prefer to have over Rodan.

People say that it was only pick 88 we gave up, but its not just that. Its a spot on our list. What if now we do not have space to retain the likes of Evans, Nicho, Jetta ect. I rate all 3 of them higher than Rodan.

Gosh.....id rather keep our Jetta's Bennell's, Petterds and Macdonalds Barrell just gets deeper and deeper. Edited: Fixed Mc to Mac

Gys hasn't failed yet, he had an injury riddled year and still did quite well in the VFL upon his return.

So in essence Gysberts for Ray? Lol whoever is pumping out these rumors must really hate the MFC

It ll be depressing when Brock Mclean is tearing it up and we have Pederson struggling to make our first 22 due to the abundance of talls we have.

Do we really need 3 threads on Rodan?

Cotchin, Franklin, Dangerfield

I rate Gysberts higher then Pederson, especially since our midfield is atrocious and we need as much midfield potential as we can possibly have.

Think he was on a bit of coin. They may be building a 'warchest' to make a big play on Franklin next year.

What is with peoples obsession with Pederson or Ray? They aren't even fringe players, they are worse then that. no way would I part with a pick 28 or 33 for either of them. At best I would part with pick 28 for the pair. We draft Howe with a pick in the early 30's. TMac with a pick around 40. Would anyone trade those 2 for Ray and Pederson as I sure in hell wouldn't. Lets just use the draft picks and maybe draft a Dean Towers and some small forward instead.

What happens if contracts aren't signed by list lodgement next week?

Sylvia UFA next year? Guess that means his about to have his breakout season...