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33 24 no difference. regardless of what it is we ll use it as a pick in a trade where we are just paying overs again.

unless Toumpas is available

Someone has to disagree on talk back. If nobody did then it would be hell boring to listen to. Its always good to see 2 sides to the arguments. Alot of posters here seem to be wearing demon goggles sometimes and do not consider the other opinion. Not saying that I agree with him as I have stopped tuning in so I have no idea what he was rambling on about this time.

I hope the recruiters have this note on a piece of paper in front of them. Hello boys, for pick #4 choose the highest player from the below list who is available 1. Toumpas 2. Wines 3. O Rourke And for all the other picks, choose the cheekiest little forwards you can find, I want 3 of them. Regards, MN

I know its a late pick but i did say I would have a fit if we gave up picks/players for B grade mids who work hard.... Lucky for DL Ray is worse then B grade so no fit going to happen.

So your saying that numerous sources have agreed that we draft tampered? As that is what a deal to take Viney 2nd rounder would have been. Opposed to them passing because he was not worth a pick #1 or #2 as the Jack Martins, Lachie Whitfields and Brodie Grundys were rated higher.

I would, I would rather Pick 3, Hogan, Pick 13, Viney, Dawes (For Martin/other rejects), Barry and 63

Thats a shame, i remember seeing footage years ago when they were toddlers of Gary having a kick with them. Was hoping it was the start of him grooming them into top players. Doesn't farmer also have a few of his own?

Yeah I thought Lyon had a few kids, any of them looking the goods?

As long as we don't trade Gysberts for Ray and Martin for Pederson I will be happy.

We will start to see teams trading off players when they get to 7 years if they sense that the player will leave on FA or they are hesitant in signing a long term contract. The teams will get much more value for the players that way. Imagine if Saints traded of Goddard last year. I am pretty sure they would have received more then just pick #13 May even see trades like Trengove for D Martin occur after 7 years so neither of them can become free agents.

That Jack Watts will be the most dominant FF since Neitz

love the way these articles always say 'He intends on continuing his AFL career elsewhere' What AFL career exactly?

Why do people care so much, we all knew we were going to have a clean out, we finished 16th ffs. This is a player that every team passed up and then we gave him a shot at a rookie spot and he still couldn't earn himself a senior game. This just the start so people better get used to it.

wonder who BP would draft at #4

Still no word on Bate....

Tom Mc for pick 3, hell yes. Easily have enough talls down back and if we could pick up Grundy it would be massive. Premier A grade goal kicking ruckman for 12 years. Would thrive under the new ruck rules.

MFC supporters think that about all their players.

Yep, get rid of something we have excess of for something we need? I am sure guys like Davis, Martin, Seller ect can fill the gap.

Why not? We have excess tall back-men as it is. If we could take Grundy with that pick I am sure it would be a big gain.

Jay Clark seems to think GWS offering pick 2 to St Kilda for Fisher. We should so throw TMac on the table for pick 2 or 3.

Blease

Unfortunately we have no picks in Towers range. Would've been a taker at 20 , but yeah...... I

Guangdong Province, Chao Zhou (China) 20 184 cm 72 kg Kevin Sheehan says: “Medium defender type with brilliant leg power. His vertical jump is in the rare category. A standing jump of 86cm and a running jump of 99cm at the China Combine in July were reflective of his background in volleyball and basketball. An exciting athlete that has excelled at school in short distance track events and displays a real desire to learn the game and improve. Is the first player to be selected from the AFL China Academy program in Guangshou, Southern China.”