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Bit of symmetry for Josh Tynan playing the first and last game of the year. Gysberts is interesting, would have thought he had done enough to deserve a call up. Hopefully Neeld is just putting high demands on him to lift in certain areas as I would hate to see him traded. Big preseason for him coming up.

Why would we trade GWS pick 3 and give them a selection before ours? Pick 4 is (most likely) still going to be better than the next best rival bid.

Didn't sign-on for 3 years, just like scully...... everybody panic!!!

No Pickles or Nicho... disappointing.

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I think you and Cheesecake are in agreement, with the 2nd post i've quoted being the source of the confusion. I think the bluff most people refer to is that GWS will call our bluff by nominating Viney to stop him sliding into the 2nd round and us getting an additional top 4pick. You have also contradicted yourself by saying if they nominate they have to take him in your 2nd post, when you've already highlighted that we have the option to match their bid with our first live pick, #3. Hope this clears up the confusion a bit.

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Best of luck to Jess Trengove who is competing in the Womens Marathon, race now under way.

All for positivity and fun. Although it wasn't pretty, we got rare win... gotta be happy with that. Plus Essendon lost and are a step closer to missing the 8... all round a good day

Lol. We are. Also they are outside the eight on percentage. They will want to smash us to ensure finals.

Is that the worst 7 goal win ever? Glad to come away with the win but that was extremely hard to watch. McDonald attempting to bounce the ball provided some comedic value.

By most reports Morton had a pretty good game last week and we still need to field 22 players each week. It's a bit unfair, in my opinion, to condemn a person on a single mistake in a game of footy. Show me a player that doesn't make an error in 120 minutes of football and I'll show you a guy that doesn't like head. If we were picking players on their merits alone, we would probably struggle to put more than 10 players on the park. Sellar (196cm) should be more than capable of giving Spencer a chop out (remember the days when this was Dunn's job? Shudder). It's not ideal for Spencer to be rucking the majority of the game, but I presume the match committee has decided that a running midfielder will be of more advantage than Fitzpatrick spending time up forward with stints in the ruck.

Terry Wallace admitted to not doing everything in his power to give the Tigers the best shot at winning against St Kilda in Round 22 2007 knowing that a win would cost them Trent Cotchin. Instead of making odd positional changes, he became a spectator and let the game play out.

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Yep, I'm getting more and more confident that Viney will slip through to the 2nd round... just too much talent at the top end to risk.

Thanks for the info. Was just using last year as a guide to how it may pan out this year. I haven't seen any of Martin or Hogan this year and don't know how they rate into the scheme of things. If they aren't clearly ahead of Wines, Toumpas or Stringer then obviously it makes no sense.

For those that have watched a bit of the championships, is Martin and Hogan worth going for in the mini draft? Using Gold Coast and Adelaide as a guide. Mini Pick # 1 -> Pick 4 and Mid 1st round compensation pick Mini Pick # 2 -> Pick 10 and 1st round compensation pick So if we wanted to get mini pick one, we would most likely have to part with pick 4 and 13. Would people be happy with.... Mini Draft Pick # 1 - Jack Martin/Jesse Hogan Pick # 3 - Jimmy Toumpas/Jake Stringer/Ollie Wines 2nd Round Pick - Jack Viney

Yep, mis-read the article on him thinking he would miss this game. Having surgery to fix his hip after this game and will miss the rest of the year. Looks like a player.

Ahh they have too... good pick up. Indeed a salient point, 8kgs is a lot of weight to lose and they would want to manage his loads until he can get back to his optimal physical fitness. Still may play today as Dr. Mubuto pointed out but wouldn't be surprised or even unhappy if he was to sit this one out.

Having a look at team selections it seems that a number of highly rated players won't take the field today. No Viney, Whitfield, Vlastuin, Toumpas (injured), Wines, Stringer. Disappointing. http://www.afl.com.a...=7932&tab=Teams Darcy Bailey named in the backpocket for Vic Metro... that wouldn't be Deans kid would it?

Yes, one would think that vertical strips vs plane jumper with insignia on the front should be sufficient to tell the teams apart. I wouldn't be suprised if a few years down the road we will be moving towards teams having home and away jumpers (i.e. wear 50/50 during the season) instead of clash jumpers for select matches. Hell we're not far off it now.

Round 4 Results Vic Country vs Vic Metro: Match Report VIC COUNTRY 2.5 3.8 6.14 6.15 (51) VIC METRO 1.7 4.11 6.14 8.18 (66) GOALS Vic Country: Calvert 2, Crouch, Membrey, Wines, Wood Vic Metro: Boyd 3, Hrovat, Hunter, Jaksch, Kelly, O'Rourke BEST Vic Country: Wood, Smith, Sherman, Garner, Wines, Hams Vic Metro: Temay, O'Rourke, Boyd, Kelly, Vlastuin, Viney, Gilmore Western Australia vs South Australia: Match Report WESTERN AUSTRALIA 0.2 1.5 2.7 4.10 (34) SOUTH AUSTRALIA 3.2 4.5 7.9 12.12 (84) GOALS Western Australia: Garlett, Paparone, Shaw, Simpson South Australia: McDonough 6, Mayes 2, Kennedy Spina, Stark, BEST Western Australia: Garlett, Paparone, Hogan, Jones, Rodda South Australia: Aish, Colquhoun, Scharenberg, Mayes, McDonough, Grundy, Toumpas Queensland vs Northern Territory: Match Report QUEENSLAND 1.0 4.3 7.6 11.8 (74) NORTHERN TERRITORY 2.3 6.4 7.6 10.7 (67) GOALS Queensland: Bourke 3, Coleman-Broom 3, Ives, Johnson, Power, Tickner, Wardle Northern Territory: Stokes 3, Autio 2, J Williams 2, Assan, Neade, Wasley-Black BEST Queensland: Allir, Wallin, Smith, Tickner, Ives, Boston Northern Territory: Wasley-Black, D Williams, Anderson, Alice, Neade Tasmania vs NSW/ACT: Match Report TASMANIA 4.0 8.3 10.6 14.7 (91) NSW/ACT 1.6 2.8 5.10 6.14 (50) GOALS Tasmania: Kendall 5, Lonergan 2, O'Byrne 2, B Walsh 2, K Kolodjashnij, Nankervis, Van den Berg NSW/ACT: Clothier, Dwyer, Gibbons, Keogh, Redfern, Robinson BEST Tasmania: B Walsh, Kendall, Siggins, Lonergan, Hibberd, O'Byrne NSW/ACT: Clyne, Redfern, Keogh, Gibbons, Clothier

I like him as a player, he has played 7 games this year... not sure if he's been troubled by injury or not. If he's not cracking a regular game and wants out I wouldn't be offering more than a 3rd rounder. But as already been mentioned above I don't think the Lions would give him up that easily.

I don't mean to sound like a [censored] but a quick google search brought up these articles... I think we're just a sensitive lot after the whole Scully drama and we melbourne fans seem to have a bit of a persecution complex going on. Joe Daniher fires for Calder Cannons to excite Essendon fans "ESSENDON-bound Joe Daniher showed why he could warrant No. 1 draft pick status if he was on the open market, kicking seven goals in just his second game in 18 months." Bombers bargain for Calder Cannons Daniher Essendon draft delight looms in Joe Daniher Future Essendon star Joe Daniher exciting Vic Metro coach "For me, and I haven’t seen a lot of (touted No. 1 pick Lachie) Whitfield, but he’s in the top one or two or three, easy. Essendon are going to do all right getting him at pick 15 or 16 or whatever." Future Dons Joe Daniher highly rated Daniher getting taller and stronger I now feel extremely dirty for posting positive essendon related news on our board