Jesse Christ

... and captain. I would be disappointed and embarrasses if we offered him anything less then 600k a year

I've just watched a 12 minute highlight (yes 12 mins lol) video on YouTube and I forgot how exciting he is, I change my mind, definite keeper and let's put him back where he belongs- in the forward 50!

Looks pretty impressive tbh, I'd be happy with either Laverde or Lever with 3. Instant impact I'd go Lever, but then Laverde looks like he could develop into something elite. Tough decision.

Given our failure to get any genuine mids in the trade period, and our obvious lack of depth there, would anyone be surprised if pick 3 was used on the next best available pure midfielder in the draft- a name hasn't been mentioned so much in top 3 predictions? Apart from Brayshaw and Petracca what are the names being thrown around as genuine midfield talent?

And if they had have offered it sooner we could have packaged it up and gotten Danger. Ain't that a kick in the teeth lol

Would have taken me 1 second to say "deal".

Yeah I'll just read 49 pages then

Has anyone asked why we didn't know the full extent of his injuries and were just as shocked as Richmond when they were discovered? Has anyone explained this?

If a Frost developers into our 10 year regular FB than 23 wouldn't be a stupid pick- we only think that because we expected to get him really cheap, but if he works out its a good trade.

Also must be kept in mind we are very short on young talent- our previous draft failures have us with only a small handful of players who may actually carve out a successful AFL career. If the worst thing that comes out of our failure to attract experienced mids this year is that we stock up on talented youngsters, then maybe that will provide us the springboard we need to actually develop our own group of dynamic players that will push us into the 8 and beyond. It's not like the chance to bring in a gun through trades or FA is dead, it's just taken a back-seat right now to refining the "cake" element of the list

And even if Western Sydney was a great place to live, managing the salary cap for all this talent would be impossible. They have 3 uphill battles- the [censored] hole that is Western Sydney, managing the salary cap, and being based in an area where the demographic doesn't give a crap about Aussie Rules. FAIL FAIL FAIL!

I'd be happy to offer up Grimes as a sweetener. Maybe package him with 23 and see what clubs are willing to bite. Richmond or GWS could be interested.

Would rather leave Howe out of it and just get Frost in the PSD

I meant Brayshaw, woops

Shut up shop now. 2&3 for Brayshaw and Lever and I'm happy. Garlett and Lamumba improvements on what we have, Stretch on the cheap, yes we didn't bring in any experienced mids but we had a crack at it and no one bit, no point crying over it. It's all about incremental improvement. We need a couple more wins next year which will hopefully come and maybe there will be a tipping point where we are a desire able destination- bring in a gun FA next year and the best mid available with whatever pick we have next draft, trade or delist the remainder of the "scarred" players and were a new team.

Yeah in Sydney's midfield. What a hack!

I'd do 2,3 and 23 for Kennedy and Mitchell but don't think they'd trade Mitchell if their best midfield so won't happen

That ship's already sailed! If we did that bow it would just look like we're throwing a hissy fit. Feel this is Collingwood little FU for Clark wasting their time.

Do we have anyone else on the list we may be able to get a pick around 10 to 15 with? Maybe a Howe or a garland?

It is for me, I'm done with this crap

So we try to accommodate MC by sending him where he wants to go when we should have just sent him where we would get the best deal.. To top it off we try to get ruthless by trying to trade a loyal guy against his wishes and it blows up in our face spectacularly. FAIL FAIL FAIL.

Have to agree. What a bloody let down this whole trade period has been! Last years trade period 2 steps forward, this year one step back. Extremely deflating.

Still not sure what point you're trying to make

What is happening to this place?

Lol same here. At this stage going to the draft with 2 &3 would be the biggest anti-climax ever. Who would have thiught