Macca

3 more years ? The time for winning is always right now - regardless of development or talent - attitude is everything in sport - I've seen plenty of average teams play finals - it may take a little while for Neeld game plan to get through to the players but why not round 1 hey .

Rubbish - you never ever barrack against your own Country - it's Un Australian !

So you want your Country to lose ! Will you want the Demons to lose if we start winning again ? Your comment must be tongue in cheek yeah ? Otherwise one of the most astonishing posts I have ever read .

Well I'm just in a bit of shock really - trying to make sense of an 8 wicket loss from a commanding position . I suppose if we win next weeks Test it may soften the blow but the team would have to be in shock as well . Huge task for Clarke to get the team up next week . If we lose again there should be reprisals . As it is they will possibly find room for Cummins ( for Siddle ? Johnson ? ) and Khawaja ( prob won't happen but should )

More wickets than a 20/20 today ! 12/60 this session ! EDIT - We are now 9 / 21 The most bizarre 3 hours of Test cricket I've ever seen .

South Africa 96 Pup 151

Yeah good point H T re Johnno All out - 96 ! Remarkable .

It's been amazing to watch this unfold - Aussies look a different team to last summer's ashes series .

Everything is going our way - enjoying this ! What did I say ? 300 - 320 ! What was I thinking ? 8 - 83

We're well on top now - The Aussies look focused and Watson is bowling really well .

Watto !! How good is this ? 4 fa 74 !

Yeah , found it hard to leave Ryan out - it's actually quite hard to do these top 10 , 12's etc - you have to leave quality players out - fun trying though . Have a go yourself Adzman - I'd be interested in your views - and I'll have a good look at Foster for next weeks best lists ! Smith and Flacco are getting better as well but ya can't fit em all in . I'll have a go at trying to tip the winners sometime on the weekend - let's see who can get the most hey ? San Diego to win tomorrow for starters .

Gee that's a bonus wicket - Amla out - beauty ! If we can restrict them to 300 - 320 we're right in this .

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For those without foxtel the Test is on ABC Grandstand radio .

Allan Border described Pups knock as one of his best ever . It reminded me of Kim Hughes' ton vs the Windies in 1981 - Boxing day . Captaincy seems to be bringing the best out of Clarkie . And how good is Steyn ? Our bowlers need to step up .

Macca 1.7

What makes me chuckle is how the "experts" in the States change their opinion on all things NFL on a weekly basis . But , they kinda have to cos a lot can change in a week . For instance - that Giants win in New England changes 2 divisions dramatically - question marks everywhere And if the 49ers beat the Giants this week they'll be 8 / 1 and there will be pundits jumping on board big time . I wish they would play 20 games instead of 16 so we could get another month of it but I spose with 16 it makes every game vital for the contenders . And I really rate McCoy btw but I thought I'd give 2nd to Forte this week because of his game against your blokes . Peterson is an absolute gun .

Top 5 RB's 1 - Peterson 2 - Forte 3 - McCoy 4 - Gore 5 - Jackson Turner , Jones-Drew and Tate are right up there . Top 5 WR's 1 - Smith 2 - Wallace 3 - Welker 4 - Johnson 5 - Fitzgerald Boldin, Jennings and Maclin aren't too shabby either .

Well here goes with the top 12 teams and top 10 QB's - I'll do the WR's and RB's in a day or so , 1 - Green Bay 2 - Baltimore 3 - N Y Giants - tough next 5 games 4 - 49ers - this week will tell a tale ( vs Giants ) 5 - Pittsburgh 6 - New Orleans 7 - New England ( They might be in trouble ) 8 - N Y Jets - Back in it ? 9 - Houston 10 - Chicago - Cutler the key 11 - Detroit 12 - San Diego - 45pts vs the Packers - decent effort KC , Philadelphia , Buffalo have been dumped ( for now ) and Atlanta and Cinci are unlucky QB's 1 - Rodgers 2 - Brady - is he on the wane ? 34yo now . 3 - Brees 4 - Eli - a bit maligned 5 - Ben 6 - Vick - if the Eagles start winning he could go to no.3 or 4 7 - Rivers 8 - Newton - how good is this bloke gonna be ? 9 - Cutler - starting to come good . 10 - Stafford Ryan , Flacco , Schaub , Smith and Romo could all be in the 7 - 10 range

In another browser I wait for the song to start then pause it - then simply copy and paste the http address to here - highlighting the address of course . Hope that makes sense Wyl - good tune btw - good heavy driving beat - I'll give it a few listens tonight - I'm a bit the same with Oasis - like 4 or 5 of their songs - "Wonderwall" and "The Shock of the Lightning" are fav's of mine ..

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Yeah I agree , the Eagles are going to have to play a lot better - looked out of sorts against Chicago . Anyway I'll prob do top 12's 10's 5's tonight - Oakland @ San Diego this Friday ( our time ) Beauty ! Might even try and tip the winners this week - post that on the weekend - San Diego to win against the Raiders to start off . 15 games next Sunday / Monday btw

Bad luck Dappa but I don't reckon you're quite done yet . You could be within 1 game in 2 weeks time . The Eagles surely will take care of Arizona at home and the Giants have a tough one at San Fran . Then you play each other at NY . A lot can happen in this League and injuries can play a big part as well . And Dallas will drop a few games you'd think . The Giants don't get an easy game until week 15 - they've got the Saints away in week 12 , Green Bay at home in week 13 and they've got to go to Dallas in week 14 . In those same weeks you've got N.E at home ( they're not that good anymore ) then @ Seattle , then @ Miami . If the Giants win most of their remaining games then it's over but ya never know . 10 / 6 might be enough to win the division .

You gave me an idea with the Jasper Carrott post ( which I liked btw ) Maybe a "Humourous Clips" thread - what do you think ? Benny , Hoges , Hale and Pace , Dave Allen , D Gen , Two Ronnies , etc etc