Macca

Agreed , yesterday was woeful but change will happen I tend to think that a few of the players were on their last chance in Sri Lanka and South Africa To me it's more about injecting good young players into the team rather than administration issues . We need to rebuild with youth - the Shield system is still first rate and there's plenty of good young talent around .

3 more years ? The time for winning is always right now - regardless of development or talent - attitude is everything in sport - I've seen plenty of average teams play finals - it may take a little while for Neeld game plan to get through to the players but why not round 1 hey .

Rubbish - you never ever barrack against your own Country - it's Un Australian !

So you want your Country to lose ! Will you want the Demons to lose if we start winning again ? Your comment must be tongue in cheek yeah ? Otherwise one of the most astonishing posts I have ever read .

Well I'm just in a bit of shock really - trying to make sense of an 8 wicket loss from a commanding position . I suppose if we win next weeks Test it may soften the blow but the team would have to be in shock as well . Huge task for Clarke to get the team up next week . If we lose again there should be reprisals . As it is they will possibly find room for Cummins ( for Siddle ? Johnson ? ) and Khawaja ( prob won't happen but should )

More wickets than a 20/20 today ! 12/60 this session ! EDIT - We are now 9 / 21 The most bizarre 3 hours of Test cricket I've ever seen .

South Africa 96 Pup 151

Yeah good point H T re Johnno All out - 96 ! Remarkable .

It's been amazing to watch this unfold - Aussies look a different team to last summer's ashes series .

Everything is going our way - enjoying this ! What did I say ? 300 - 320 ! What was I thinking ? 8 - 83

We're well on top now - The Aussies look focused and Watson is bowling really well .

Watto !! How good is this ? 4 fa 74 !

Yeah , found it hard to leave Ryan out - it's actually quite hard to do these top 10 , 12's etc - you have to leave quality players out - fun trying though . Have a go yourself Adzman - I'd be interested in your views - and I'll have a good look at Foster for next weeks best lists ! Smith and Flacco are getting better as well but ya can't fit em all in . I'll have a go at trying to tip the winners sometime on the weekend - let's see who can get the most hey ? San Diego to win tomorrow for starters .

Gee that's a bonus wicket - Amla out - beauty ! If we can restrict them to 300 - 320 we're right in this .

Macca 1.8

For those without foxtel the Test is on ABC Grandstand radio .

Allan Border described Pups knock as one of his best ever . It reminded me of Kim Hughes' ton vs the Windies in 1981 - Boxing day . Captaincy seems to be bringing the best out of Clarkie . And how good is Steyn ? Our bowlers need to step up .

Macca 1.7

What makes me chuckle is how the "experts" in the States change their opinion on all things NFL on a weekly basis . But , they kinda have to cos a lot can change in a week . For instance - that Giants win in New England changes 2 divisions dramatically - question marks everywhere And if the 49ers beat the Giants this week they'll be 8 / 1 and there will be pundits jumping on board big time . I wish they would play 20 games instead of 16 so we could get another month of it but I spose with 16 it makes every game vital for the contenders . And I really rate McCoy btw but I thought I'd give 2nd to Forte this week because of his game against your blokes . Peterson is an absolute gun .

Top 5 RB's 1 - Peterson 2 - Forte 3 - McCoy 4 - Gore 5 - Jackson Turner , Jones-Drew and Tate are right up there . Top 5 WR's 1 - Smith 2 - Wallace 3 - Welker 4 - Johnson 5 - Fitzgerald Boldin, Jennings and Maclin aren't too shabby either .

Well here goes with the top 12 teams and top 10 QB's - I'll do the WR's and RB's in a day or so , 1 - Green Bay 2 - Baltimore 3 - N Y Giants - tough next 5 games 4 - 49ers - this week will tell a tale ( vs Giants ) 5 - Pittsburgh 6 - New Orleans 7 - New England ( They might be in trouble ) 8 - N Y Jets - Back in it ? 9 - Houston 10 - Chicago - Cutler the key 11 - Detroit 12 - San Diego - 45pts vs the Packers - decent effort KC , Philadelphia , Buffalo have been dumped ( for now ) and Atlanta and Cinci are unlucky QB's 1 - Rodgers 2 - Brady - is he on the wane ? 34yo now . 3 - Brees 4 - Eli - a bit maligned 5 - Ben 6 - Vick - if the Eagles start winning he could go to no.3 or 4 7 - Rivers 8 - Newton - how good is this bloke gonna be ? 9 - Cutler - starting to come good . 10 - Stafford Ryan , Flacco , Schaub , Smith and Romo could all be in the 7 - 10 range

In another browser I wait for the song to start then pause it - then simply copy and paste the http address to here - highlighting the address of course . Hope that makes sense Wyl - good tune btw - good heavy driving beat - I'll give it a few listens tonight - I'm a bit the same with Oasis - like 4 or 5 of their songs - "Wonderwall" and "The Shock of the Lightning" are fav's of mine ..

Macca 1.6

Yeah I agree , the Eagles are going to have to play a lot better - looked out of sorts against Chicago . Anyway I'll prob do top 12's 10's 5's tonight - Oakland @ San Diego this Friday ( our time ) Beauty ! Might even try and tip the winners this week - post that on the weekend - San Diego to win against the Raiders to start off . 15 games next Sunday / Monday btw

Bad luck Dappa but I don't reckon you're quite done yet . You could be within 1 game in 2 weeks time . The Eagles surely will take care of Arizona at home and the Giants have a tough one at San Fran . Then you play each other at NY . A lot can happen in this League and injuries can play a big part as well . And Dallas will drop a few games you'd think . The Giants don't get an easy game until week 15 - they've got the Saints away in week 12 , Green Bay at home in week 13 and they've got to go to Dallas in week 14 . In those same weeks you've got N.E at home ( they're not that good anymore ) then @ Seattle , then @ Miami . If the Giants win most of their remaining games then it's over but ya never know . 10 / 6 might be enough to win the division .